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Tough Day To Be In Law Enforcement

Just curious, is there another democracy on earth doing something like this? Incorporating paramilitaries to police (intimidate) its own citizens Seems very authoritarian to me and the opposite of what a democracy is supposed to be. Are we witnessing a fascist takeover? And what happens if/when he does this same thing on election night and prevents thousands/millions in swing states from voting?

 
Gameface said:
I think these demonstrations have shown that the police are the enimies of the people by and large.

That's my conclusion.

I want a complete dismantling of our current system before we can move forward. I do not want any currently employed police officer to have a job until the entire system is re-evaluated.

They do not know how to protect the peace.
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I don't think that. I think you're only seeing one side of it. "Enimies." Lol

People have been destroying cities and people expect the cops to do nothing.

Stop police brutality. Stop rioting.

It's really that simple.
 
Gameface said:
I think these demonstrations have shown that the police are the enimies of the people by and large.

That's my conclusion.

I want a complete dismantling of our current system before we can move forward. I do not want any currently employed police officer to have a job until the entire system is re-evaluated.

They do not know how to protect the peace.
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agreed.

saw this today. Made me so angry.



and this



this system needs to change. It has gone to being a priority to being thee priority for our society imo.
 
The Thriller said:
Just curious, is there another democracy on earth doing something like this? Incorporating paramilitaries to police (intimidate) its own citizens Seems very authoritarian to me and the opposite of what a democracy is supposed to be. Are we witnessing a fascist takeover? And what happens if/when he does this same thing on election night and prevents thousands/millions in swing states from voting?

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Those guys do not remotely look like law enforcement to me. At all.
 
Archie Moses said:
I don't think that. I think you're only seeing one side of it. "Enimies." Lol

People have been destroying cities and people expect the cops to do nothing.

Stop police brutality. Stop rioting.

It's really that simple.
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Maybe the cops should target the people destroying the cities.
Many videos I have watched the cops are going after peaceful protesters, the media, homeless people etc. And going after them with way too much force.

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Wes Mantooth said:
Those guys do not remotely look like law enforcement to me. At all.
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so who the **** are they? I’m a little salty today. Who are these punks occupying DC? Blackwater or whatever Erik Prince has rebranded his misfit toys? Are they Donald’s very fine people? Does Congress know any history? We have a private army occupying our Capitol city. Sure, they look like they’d occupy a box full of a dozen donuts better. But even still, a private army is occupying The seat of our federal government. Ummmm...
 
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fishonjazz said:
Maybe the cops should target the people destroying the cities.
Many videos I have watched the cops are going after peaceful protesters, the media, homeless people etc. And going after them with way too much force.

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But then youd be letting the protestors win. And they might enact actual change. The police seem content to maintain the status quo/increase their already overbearing and Unaccountable power.

they’re just trying to dominate. It’s what Donald ordered the governors to do.
 
It’s just amazing to me the double standard people hold public employees. Educators since I’ve been in the profession, have been pressured to change, innovate, and become more accountable. It’s been met with mixed results but overall I’d say it’s been for the positive. I’ve never been against standardized testing and accountability as long as it’s fair. The fairness aspect Can definitely be debated. And in all of my years I’ve only met three teachers who didn’t care. They were also terminated/not renewed. Teachers for the most part, recognize accountability to be a vital part of their job.

Meanwhile, we worship the police at sporting events, give them blank checks to buy tanks and tear gas, and leave them completely Unaccountable. Even when caught murdering people on video, a large segment of our population excuses their behavior.

Yet, would anyone make excuses for a teacher caught raping a kid on video? What would you think of teachers standing by and watching as one of their own beat a child senseless? Or 57 teachers quitting a special assignment to protest the investigation of 2 of their buddies caught on video knocking a student down and standing there as he bled for his head?

It’s just unbelievable the double standard.
 
fishonjazz said:
Maybe the cops should target the people destroying the cities.
Many videos I have watched the cops are going after peaceful protesters, the media, homeless people etc. And going after them with way too much force.

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For sure.

In a lot of the videos I've seen, there were early curfews because the cities were in havoc after dark. After the curfew passed, the protesters were warned many times to leave and go home which they didn't.

So what happens next? Let them stay knowing what could happen or enforce the curefew?

My biggest issue with Gameface's comment was calling the vast majority of officers enemies to the people. I don't think that's true.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Crime is much lower now that it was in the 80s in the USA. It's a safer place.

It's a pretty happy and generally nice place. There are some scary areas but not many and not that bad.
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Interesting point is that most of trip reports made by Estonian tourists really give max points to their trips in USA. Of course, most of them visit the most popular places (NYC, Florida, SFO, Yosemite, Yellowstone, we even have die hard Moab fan. Looking at the photos they have made i also had a kind of itch to visit USA and specially those national parks and Hawaii. Usually all of them report that the safety feeling is higher than in Barcelona or Rome.
However, when i read this forum and another my favourite airliners.net, then the situation seems kind of different. A la like there is mini Srebrenica every week in some place in USA and life generally sucks.
And almost everywhere is the democrats vs republicans showdown whether it is in workplace or some other public one and maybe even at some family event.
 
The Thriller said:
Yet, would anyone make excuses for a teacher caught raping a kid on video? What would you think of teachers standing by and watching as one of their own beat a child senseless? Or 57 teachers quitting a special assignment to protest the investigation of 2 of their buddies caught on video knocking a student down and standing there as he bled for his head?
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It's very simple. For at least 20-30 years, teachers have been trained to see themselves as being on students' side. It's not you and your colleagues against the students. So when a colleague is investigated for possible molestation of a student, you don't think "What a terrible thing happened to my colleague," you think "What a terrible thing happened to my student." As we can see from the Buffalo example, that's not at all how cops think. A 75-year old getting beaten by your colleagues isn't terrible. It's terrible your colleagues are now in trouble for it. I think most of us grow out of this kind of attitude around the age of 12. The rest of us, I suppose, just get jobs in law enforcement so they don't have to.
 
I was assaulted by Skinheads in Buffalo in 2005. This doesn’t surprise me one bit.


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AlaskanAssassin said:
If race is irrelevant, why is it explicitly stated that the police officer is white in every article you read about the murder. That fact would never be mentioned if the race of the cop was irrelevant. Do you think the Nation's response to this would be the same if it was two black officers that killed George Floyd?

It's willful ignorance if you think the race of the cop is irrelevant.
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I've seen articles about plenty of black, mexican, asian cops participating in police brutality.
Wes Mantooth said:
Agreed. Not sure I’ve ever felt unsafe. I’ve walked through the worst parts of Trenton as a meter reader and never felt unsafe...though 1) I did think to myself if some ************* locks me down here as I opened the huge sidewalk grate and walked underground to do the reading one time, cobwebs engulfing me...yet the unsafest I ever felt in that job was when I read a meter for a guy in the back woodsy part of Princeton. A house every 100-125 meters or so on the road. His meter was in some odd closet attached to the side of his house. He had to come out to unlock the door for me. He just felt off to me the whole time. He unlocked the closet, I walked in, quickly read it, my meter firmly strapped in my palm. As I turned around, he was maybe five or six feet away, each of his hands on each door jam on either side of the doorway, his body sort of leaning in toward me. I gave him about 1-1.5 seconds to move...ya know, basic common sense, I was ****ing done. When he didn’t move, I firmly said, excuse me, ready to swing the meter hard as hell against his skull. He moved, and I was sure to keep an eye on him out of the corner of my eye, me still ready to swing the meter. I walked back to my vehicle, he back into his house, and I got into my car and started backing out of his driveway, watching as he peeked through his curtains out at me. ****ing weird white dude.
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Yeah, the only times I've felt unsafe is in the backwoods of Alaska. Crazy asses out there.
 
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