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Eenie-Meenie said:
Cops can be such assholes. I've watched some of the Live PD shows. Why do they have to handcuff people when they are not resisting? Since when has that become a protocol?

Once many years ago, I was stopped for DWI. I had two drinks and blew a 0.5 which was the lowest level at that time in NYS to be considered "impaired," a lower designation than DWI. I was never handcuffed and the officer was very cordial and said since I blew so low he would recommend that I would only be assessed a fine for a lower offense and not the driving while impaired.

But now they handcuff you for any reason. I see that as unnecessary and simply escalating the situation. If they didn't try to handcuff Brooks, I don't think the confrontation would've occurred and Brooks would still be alive. This is the problem with law enforcement. They often escalate situations and cause the confrontations rather de-escalate them. This is where education needs to be implemented in law enforcement -- learning how to calm down a situation rather than the reverse, which is often the case.
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You blew a 0.05. Not a 0.5.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Cops can be such assholes. I've watched some of the Live PD shows. Why do they have to handcuff people when they are not resisting? Since when has that become a protocol?

Once many years ago, I was stopped for DWI. I had two drinks and blew a 0.5 which was the lowest level at that time in NYS to be considered "impaired," a lower designation than DWI. I was never handcuffed and the officer was very cordial and said since I blew so low he would recommend that I would only be assessed a fine for a lower offense and not the driving while impaired.

But now they handcuff you for any reason. I see that as unnecessary and simply escalating the situation. If they didn't try to handcuff Brooks, I don't think the confrontation would've occurred and Brooks would still be alive. This is the problem with law enforcement. They often escalate situations and cause the confrontations rather de-escalate them. This is where education needs to be implemented in law enforcement -- learning how to calm down a situation rather than the reverse, which is often the case.
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I think they were cuffing him cause he was way over the limit and that means you go to jail. I think you get cuffed everytime you go to jail.

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Archie Moses said:
What did he blow do you know?
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I would have to watch the video again and it was difficult to see but I think it was .1 something. Over .1

I could be wrong though.

Based on the cop saying that he had to much and to put this hands behind his back I figure it had to be above the DUI level and I don't think the cop would lie since it was being recorded on his body cam.

I feel safe in saying the victim should have been arrested.

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fishonjazz said:
I think they were cuffing him cause he was way over the limit and that means you go to jail. I think you get cuffed everytime you go to jail.

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Do they put you in jail for a DWI? Don't they just book you and release you with a date to appear before the judge? Isn't it only a misdemeanor, or does that differ depending on the state?

Looked it up. Guess it depends on whether or not it's a first time DUI offense: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/question-dui-felony-28099.html
 
LogGrad98 said:
You realize the police are literally under fire from every single angle right now, everywhere. They are dropping from their jobs, afraid for their safety, and unsure of what to expect in any situation they can imagine. If course that cop said that. You think he wants to risk a riot in his town, or his job, if he didn't?
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Isn't that description applicable to a black man every time he steps out of his home?
 
Archie Moses said:
Dang. Just saw this. Brooks seems like a great guy and they officer seems calm and level headed then it escalates out of no where. Damn.

Alcohol makes you think like everything is a good idea. That wasn't a good idea.
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Instead of arresting him while he's drunk, you take his keys and call him a cab/Uber to take him home. There's no need to arrest him, you've got the evidence and the information to track him down.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
Isn't that description applicable to a black man every time he steps out of his home?
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No, you don't understand. Black men get this all day long, so they are used to it. Police only get this while in uniform, so it's much harder for them.

Or, did I get that backwards?
 
fishonjazz said:
I would have to watch the video again and it was difficult to see but I think it was .1 something. Over .1

I could be wrong though.

Based on the cop saying that he had to much and to put this hands behind his back I figure it had to be above the DUI level and I don't think the cop would lie since it was being recorded on his body cam.

I feel safe in saying the victim should have been arrested.

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I mean, he drank enough he passed out in the car while going through the drive through. Although passing out is going to sleep it's not going to sleep willfully. Dude probably blacked out.
 
One Brow said:
Instead of arresting him while he's drunk, you take his keys and call him a cab/Uber to take him home. There's no need to arrest him, you've got the evidence and the information to track him down.
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Nah, dude. What if he gets home and gets behind the wheel of another car? Dude was blackout drunk and operating a vehicle. That's wreckless af and he should be arrested.

Stop with this Uber nonsense.
 
Archie Moses said:
Nah, dude. What if he gets home and gets behind the wheel of another car? Dude was blackout drunk and operating a vehicle. That's wreckless af and he should be arrested.
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What if you decide to molest a kid tomorrow? Someone should shoot you today, just to be safe.

I mean, if you base every decision regarding other people on the worst possible outcome, at least be consistent.
 
One Brow said:
I think that lesson happens when he winds up in court on the drunk driving charges. People don't learn very well when they're drunk.
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People make poor decisions too when drunk and break the law like this guy. Some need to be locked up until their sober to protect them from theirselves and others from them as well.
 
One Brow said:
Instead of arresting him while he's drunk, you take his keys and call him a cab/Uber to take him home. There's no need to arrest him, you've got the evidence and the information to track him down.
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My uncle was a cop in NYC and up until the mid-80's this was a pretty common practice (except the Uber part of course).

He told me he would confiscate their keys and tell the person he was leaving them with the desk sergeant at his precinct and to come pick them up tomorrow. He would then radio them a cab or if they were lucid enough tell them to walk home if they lived nearby.

The only exceptions would be if they had any outstanding warrants or if they were disrespectful/cursed him out.

In the mid-80's MADD started mobilizing throughout the country and would pressure police to do away with the practice.
 
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