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OK, a lot of questions here, but it's not "news". "News" is stuff you didn't know already.

The Hunter laptop, long in the possession of the FBI and hidden by Chris Wray for "the team", seems realistic, true to life generally. You have a whole family of emails. How anyone, say a Russian spy working for a hardass American who won't pay for the work, wojuld imagine stuff and get all the email addresses and character color so right,would need an elaborate conspiracy theory. Here, I simply infer the obvious from the words on the page.

Hunter, emailing his sister, claimed to be a family hero, "supporting the whole family for thirty years" with his work. And then....... here's the bomb..... "But at least I don't make you turn over 50% like Pop."

On the simplest possible take, Hunter is here claiming to be a family hero, raking in big bucks for the family, and more generous than "Pop". "Pop" is Joe Biden.

This is a clear statement that Joe Biden personally took a large cut from Hunter and other Bidens who worked on the family "influence Farm".

I've hung on in here for 4 years watching a lot of people trying to make out some case or another on Trump abusing the "emoluments of office" clause. Well, if you could have made the case, really.

If you care about having a government that can be any better than a third-world mob ring, just don't vote for the crooked Joe. We'll keep Trump's feet to the fire, sure. Just don't jump in the fire.

Or burn the country to the ground for corporatism.

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FARRELL: Hunter Biden Revelations - Judicial Watch

From Chris Farrell’s Op-Ed for The Daily Caller: Incredible revelations hit the news this week in a series of New York Post reports based on data from a water-damaged laptop that Hunter Biden reportedly abandoned last year at a Delaware Mac repair store. The story is still developing but there...
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babe said:
How anyone, say a Russian spy working for a hardass American who won't pay for the work, wojuld imagine stuff and get all the email addresses and character color so right,would need an elaborate conspiracy theory. Here, I simply infer the obvious from the words on the page.

Hunter, emailing his sister, claimed to be a family hero, "supporting the whole family for thirty years" with his work. And then....... here's the bomb..... "But at least I don't make you turn over 50% like Pop."
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Doesn't sound like Hunter at all. The character color is completely wrong.

babe said:
If you care about having a government that can be any better than a third-world mob ring, just don't vote for the crooked Joe.
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Voting for Biden only way to the third-world mob ring out of the White House.

By the way, you ever notice how some people need to use first names when they belittle and smear?
 
The media's ability to ignore this story is truly frightening. Their agenda is obvious. If this exact same evidence was revealed about Trump the haters would have lost their collective minds at this point. The building narrative that this is all based on Russian disinformation is pathetically laughable.
 
Pretty sure I caught Hunter stealing an Amazon package from my neighbor last night on my Ring doorbell. He also peed on my petunias.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
The media's ability to ignore this story is truly frightening. Their agenda is obvious. If this exact same evidence was revealed about Trump the haters would have lost their collective minds at this point. The building narrative that this is all based on Russian disinformation is pathetically laughable.
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I think you mean if the exact same evidence was revealed about one of Trump's kids, not Trump I mean if we are comparing apples to apples. (Btw Trump's kids got security clearances that they shouldn't have and positions in Trump's administration that they weren't qualified for. His family is ****ed up.)

Also, I keep seeing stuff about hunter biden in the media. Here on jazzfanz, on Facebook and on the tv at the gym today. Seems like the media is covering it. Or did you hear about it from a non media source?


You Trumpers act like the media is one single organism and it's all bias against you and your cult. In actuality fox news is the biggest news there is and it's extremely bias in favor of your cult. The most famous news personalities that I can name off the top of my head are rush, tucker, Sean hannity. These dudes and the giant media conglomerate they work for definitely have an agenda but it's isn't the same as the one you say the media has.
Also that Qanon thing seems to say that all democrats are pedophiles who worship satan and drink kids blood. Is that also part of the liberal media bias?
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fishonjazz said:
I think you mean if the exact same evidence was revealed about one of Trump's kids, not Trump I mean if we are comparing apples to apples. (Btw Trump's kids got security clearances that they shouldn't have and positions in Trump's administration that they weren't qualified for. His family is ****ed up.)

Also, I keep seeing stuff about hunter biden in the media. Here on jazzfanz, on Facebook and on the tv at the gym today. Seems like the media is covering it. Or did you hear about it from a non media source?


You Trumpers act like the media is one single organism and it's all bias against you and your cult. In actuality fox news is the biggest news there is and it's extremely bias in favor of your cult. The most famous news personalities that I can name off the top of my head are rush, tucker, Sean hannity. These dudes and the giant media conglomerate they work for definitely have an agenda but it's isn't the same as the one you say the media has.
Also that Qanon thing seems to say that all democrats are pedophiles who worship satan and drink kids blood. Is that also part of the liberal media bias?
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I think it's fairly obvious that I was suggesting if Trump and one of his kids were substituted for Biden and one of his kids, but thanks for clarifying.

Regarding your implication that the media is evenhanded in it's handling, have you seen this video? It was one of the only opportunities the media has had to question Biden since the story broke. Instead they decided to ask him about his milkshake flavor. What is cut off from this clip is that the reporter then asked a question that included the phrase "the FBI says..." . The moment Biden heard that he waved a dismissive hand and walked away. Instead of demanding an answer to the question, as is their duty, you can hear (in the extended clip if I can find it) the gathered media laugh at the exchange and allow it to end there.



There are numerous clips of media members suggesting that the content of this laptop and the thousands of emails it contains which include scores of recipients, is somehow a fake plot propagated by the Russians. They say this despite the fact that there is no evidence whatsoever that Russia is involved, and in the face of the glaring fact that not a single person whose name has arisen as a result of this story (especially including Joe and Hunter Biden) who have even whispered the suggestion that this information has somehow been faked. They are not saying it is fake because it couldn't be more obvious that it is not fake. Their strategy appears to be to run out the clock without addressing it at all, and the media appears to be complicit in this plan.

In fact, both Twitter and Facebook have used their substantial power to actively block this story from being distributed. If I told you a year ago large swaths of our so called media would accept a complicit role in a scandal like this you would have called me insane. Now it's happening right in front of everyone's eyes and a large percentage of them (including a huge number of people whose job it is to get to the bottom of stories) are simply choosing to turn the other way. If this scandal involved the Trump family you would be witnessing a feeding frenzy like no other (and rightly so). There is no way any self-respecting media member would give a **** what flavor of milkshake the president was ordering. The idea that the Biden campaign can move forward in the face of such a scandal without making an attempt of any kind to address it and explain themselves is completely contrary to the system that has served our country for its entire history.

It has been a week since the story broke. Biden hasn't addressed it at all. The most vigorous defense that I have heard from any of his surrogates is the suggestion that it does not deserve to be addressed. The surrogate's proof of that was that Twitter censored the story on the basis that it violated standards of their service. A very cursory inspection of the censorship proves that the New York Post story did not violate Twitter's rules at all. Twitter and Facebook simply chose to use their considerable influence in order to tilt the playing field in favor of the presidential candidate that they happen to support.
 
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Joe Bagadonuts said:
I think it's fairly obvious that I was suggesting if Trump and one of his kids were substituted for Biden and one of his kids, but thanks for clarifying.

Regarding your implication that the media is evenhanded in it's handling, have you seen this video? It was one of the only opportunities the media has had to question Biden since the story broke. Instead they decided to ask him about his milkshake flavor. What is cut off from this clip is that the reporter then asked a question that included the phrase "the FBI says..." . The moment Biden heard that he waved a dismissive hand and walked away. Instead of demanding an answer to the question, as is their duty, you can hear (in the extended clip if I can find it) the gathered media laugh at the exchange and allow it to end there.



There are numerous clips of media members suggesting that the content of this laptop and the thousands of emails it contains which include scores of recipients, is somehow a fake plot propagated by the Russians. They say this despite the fact that there is no evidence whatsoever that Russia is involved, and in the face of the glaring fact that not a single person whose name has arisen as a result of this story (especially including Joe and Hunter Biden) who have even whispered the suggestion that this information has somehow been faked. They are not saying it is fake because it couldn't be more obvious that it is not fake. Their strategy appears to be to run out the clock without addressing it at all, and the media appears to be complicit in this plan.

In fact, both Twitter and Facebook have used their substantial power to actively block this story from being distributed. If I told you a year ago large swaths of our so called media would accept a complicit role in a scandal like this you would have called me insane. Now it's happening right in front of everyone's eyes and a large percentage of them (including a huge number of people whose job it is to get to the bottom of stories) are simply choosing to turn the other way. If this scandal involved the Trump family you would be witnessing a feeding frenzy like no other (and rightly so). There is no way any self-respecting media member would give a **** what flavor of milkshake the president was ordering. The idea that the Biden campaign can move forward in the face of such a scandal without making an attempt of any kind to address it and explain themselves is completely contrary to the system that has served our country for its entire history.

It has been a week since the story broke. Biden hasn't addressed it at all. The most vigorous defense that I have heard from any of his surrogates is the suggestion that it does not deserve to be addressed. The surrogate's proof of that was that Twitter censored the story on the basis that it violated standards of their service. A very cursory inspection of the censorship proves that the New York Post story did not violate Twitter's rules at all. Twitter and Facebook simply chose to use their considerable influence in order to tilt the playing field in favor of the presidential candidate that they happen to support.
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I have seen the media ask Trump questions that he doesn't answer because the reporter is "rude"

Biden didn't want to answer a question from the media? Ya don't say

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fishonjazz said:
I have seen the media ask Trump questions that he doesn't answer because the reporter is "rude"

Biden didn't want to answer a question from the media? Ya don't say

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I am not okay with a media that turns a blind eye to obvious questions. Unlike you, I know that Limbaugh, Hannity and Carlson are not mainstream media. They are right wing commentators. If I listen to them I know that I will only get one side of the story (and there's a good chance it will be extremist at that). I don't care what they have to say any more than I care what Rachel Maddow, Bill Maher and Don Lemmon (who has interviewed me, BTW) have to say. The latter three are left wing commentators. But I do care a lot when ABC's Chief Political Correspondent gets an hour to conduct a town hall with Biden in front of the entire country and has the opportunity to ask any question he wants, but completely avoids bringing up Hunter Biden's emails which seem to strongly suggest (if not outright prove) that Joe Biden has been using his political influence to sell American foreign policy for his family's gain. Millions and millions of dollars flowed into the Biden family and it's obvious to anyone willing to open their eyes what the people spending all of that money were paying for. I do care a lot when the press corps who is supposed to be following and reporting on presidential candidates for the benefit of the American public puts their foot on the scale and literally laughs off a colleague who attempts to ask a probing question. It's not good.

You might not be satisfied with the answers Trump gives to the questions he is asked, but can you think of any legitimate questions that the press has been unwilling to force him to face? I can think of a whole bunch of legitimate questions that they are not asking Biden.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
But I do care a lot when ABC's Chief Political Correspondent gets an hour to conduct a town hall with Biden in front of the entire country and has the opportunity to ask any question he wants, but completely avoids bringing up Hunter Biden's emails which seem to strongly suggest (if not outright prove) that Joe Biden has been using his political influence to sell American foreign policy for his family's gain. Millions and millions of dollars flowed into the Biden family and it's obvious to anyone willing to open their eyes what the people spending all of that money were paying for.
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Seriously, that's ringing a lot of bells on the conspiracy-o-meter. What's more likely, that several multi-billion-dollar corporations are engaging in a conspiracy to hide Hunter Biden's misdeeds, or that serious journalists looked into a tabloid article and decided it had no valid factual basis.

This supposed scandal depends on a drunk Hunter Biden deciding to take in three supposedly liquid-damaged lap tops into a repair shop, and then not noticing they were missing the next day, nor any day thereafter. Do you really believe that?

This evidence appeared after Joe Biden has been found to have not committed breaches of trust by two separate Republican-led investigatory panels, panels that could have used valid information along these lines to bring Biden up on charges, or at least censure him. What do you think about Giuliani not getting this information to those panels?

Joe Bagadonuts said:
You might not be satisfied with the answers Trump gives to the questions he is asked, but can you think of any legitimate questions that the press has been unwilling to force him to face? I can think of a whole bunch of legitimate questions that they are not asking Biden.
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These would be the same press that were on Bill Clinton about sex outside of his marriage, and spent hours on Hillary Clinton erasing personal emails? Why are they so Biden-friendly now?
 
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the usual suspects, with zero subject matter knowledge of this area of the world or Russian intelligence activities, have fully bitten on the drug deal Rudy Giuliani cooked up.

End of the day, this wont' move the needle for anyone other than deeply committed Trumpers. The problems with the story are so obvious that they don't need belaboring.
 
sirkickyass said:
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the usual suspects, with zero subject matter knowledge of this area of the world or Russian intelligence activities, have fully bitten on the drug deal Rudy Giuliani cooked up.

End of the day, this wont' move the needle for anyone other than deeply committed Trumpers. The problems with the story are so obvious that they don't need belaboring.
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LOL! The reason you don't want to belabor it is that it's so obvious that this stuff is a problem. You and others like you are just hoping that this somehow goes away.

I will agree that your strategy is probably the best one available under the circumstances. If Biden were to address this situation he would probably be crucified. My guess is that he gets elected (both because a lot of people truly hate Trump and also because the media will succeed at keeping large numbers of voters uninformed, but not because anyone is particularly fond of Joe) and then the Dems turn on him and use the exact same info they are currently ignoring to put Kamala in power.
 
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I want some accountability for all the accusations that have been made that have since been thoroughly debunked.

It's like these Trumpers think they can toss accusations around and just pretend like it never happened once it becomes clear that they are false.

The DOJ investigated voter fraud in the 2016 PResidential election... found no evidence to support it.

The DOJ "investigated the investigators" looking for foul play in the confirmed Russian interference probe... found no evidence of foul play.

Trump had his unofficial goon do some state business in Ukraine to find dirt on Hunter Biden... It fell apart and blew back in Trump's face.

Now the discredited goon has some real dirt? Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it.
 
Just checking in to see how the story on Hunter dropping off an incriminating laptop in DE while living in CA to a Trump-fan shop owner whose security footage was wiped and who def saw Hunter but is legally blind, written by Hannity's producer w/ info from Giuliani is holding up.


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Joe Bagadonuts said:
LOL! The reason you don't want to belabor it is that it's so obvious that this stuff is a problem. You and others like you are just hoping that this somehow goes away.

I will agree that your strategy is probably the best one available under the circumstances. If Biden were to address this situation he would probably be crucified. My guess is that he gets elected (both because a lot of people truly hate Trump and also because the media will succeed at keeping large numbers of voters uninformed, but not because anyone is particularly fond of Joe) and then the Dems turn on him and use the exact same info they are currently ignoring to put Kamala in power.
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Lmfao. I think someone you live with might be poisoning your soup. Better check.
 
fishonjazz said:
Just checking in to see how the story on Hunter dropping off an incriminating laptop in DE while living in CA to a Trump-fan shop owner whose security footage was wiped and who def saw Hunter but is legally blind, written by Hannity's producer w/ info from Giuliani is holding up.


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Ha ha I don't know the details but that is funny as **** if true. My guess is Gulianni paid some scumbags to hack into his icloud and Hunter being a legit retard fell for it and gave some rando access to his files. Then they get the files and are like "oh ****, how do we act like we just fell back asswards into these? A moronic unpaid laptop repair? Yeah, lets go with that."

Everyone involved in this is stupid beyond belief. From Trump, to Gulianni to the Bidens.
 
fishonjazz said:
Just checking in to see how the story on Hunter dropping off an incriminating laptop in DE while living in CA to a Trump-fan shop owner whose security footage was wiped and who def saw Hunter but is legally blind, written by Hannity's producer w/ info from Giuliani is holding up.


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Thanks for asking. I can understand why you need to come here for your info because most of the media refuses to even ask the simplest of questions about this story. I applaud you for your curiosity. Third parties have confirmed that the emails in question are real and that Big Guy refers to Joe Biden. The messages make it clear that the Biden family has subverted American foreign policy in order to enrich themselves. I'm happy to have been of service!
 
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