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Gameface said:
I guess I have no idea what it was intended to do. I thought the idea was to put more money in the pockets of workers, but you're saying that was never going to happen.
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Yes that was the idea that sold it to the people. But like so many other things that are supposed to trickle down, not much actually does.
 
magic said:
I'm in a bubble? Have you ****ing even laid a foot outside Utah? More specifically a city like SF, Boston, NY, etc.

The answer is no, you haven't. So kindly STFU
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I notice you didn't say which of those cities is locked down. That would be because none are. The worst they have is restrictions on indoor restaurants and stuff like that, most of which needs little enforcement, because most people don't want to go.

Go on, ask whether I'm outside Utah.
 
magic said:
Watch the 3rd debate.

It's not an assumption. It happened. The "experts" were calling for extended lockdowns/restrictions this summer when cases went up and the liberal states like California abided.

Also, your argument that "We don't know what Biden will do because he hasn't been president yet" is straight up stupid. I'm done here.
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no link huh? Ya I didn't think you could produce proof of that statement.

It happened under trump. You are correct. Didn't happen under Biden though.

My argument that we don't know what Biden will do as president is simply a fact.
Nice chatting with ya
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magic said:
Have you not listened to a word Biden says? Did you not listen to any of the presidential debates? Did you not even try a simple google? I found an article in literally seconds: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/21/joe-biden-lockdown-us-coronavirus-400126

Also, it's absurd that I even have to talk about this when you look at places like NY and Boston that have so many places/things shut down still. The governor of California is limiting people To Three Families, Two Hours Or Less, No Singing. You need to open your eyes man.

And as I already mentioned, Republicans let states do what they want. So liberals can keep their states like California can continue keeping their residents if they want. Democrats, on the other hand, are top down and like to enforce their liberal policies on all states. The choice for Republican is easy this year.
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The headline:

Biden says he'd lock down country if spread of coronavirus warranted it​


If you are in opposition to this, you are saying you would oppose the lockdown even when it was warranted by the4 spread of the coronavirus. Do you really take such a fundamentally stupid position? Do you oppose life guards pulling out swimmers from a pool when they swimming warrants action, because it interferes with the swimmer's freedom?

New York and Boston are *not* shut down. People are eating (out doors) in restaurants, working out, going to the store, etc.

Last I heard, there is unlimited congregating on Zoom for religious purposes.

Why do you think the Republican states are being so hard-hit in this virus peak. Does it have something to do with letting people infect each other?

I agree with you that Democrats care about protecting people, while Republicans care more about protecting pocketbooks. Well said, it is an easy choice.
 
magic said:
Dude he literally said they are going to impose lock down/covid policies till the year 2022. And they will rationalize any spike in cases as justification for locking things down, as has already happened. You're just choosing to not accept reality because you've already made up your mind.
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What do they stand to gain by this?
 
LogGrad98 said:
What do they stand to gain by this?
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Thats what i keep asking. I haven't got an answer yet but im guessing its something like "the destruction of america, thats what all democrats/liberals/leftists/marxists/socialists/communists want."
 
Just found millions of ballots on a hike today up the canyon tossed into a slot canyon filled with brush. Millions. Every single one was for Trump too, I looked at all of them.
 
It's weird that anyone would be surprised by either candidate winning.
In a 2 party extremely partisan system both candidates should always have a pretty good and even chance of winning.

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Avery said:
Seven months into this, it’s apparent we have no clucking idea what we’re doing.

I’m sick of this ****. If locking down for a few weeks to get this under control is the plan, fine.

I’m tired of doing nothing and expecting something to change.
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This pandemic will never end of Trump is re-elected. Seriously. The organization, planning, distribution of PPE, medicines, and vaccines, and testing necessary to defeat it won’t happen if Trump is the guy still calling the shots.
 
One Brow said:
The headline:

Biden says he'd lock down country if spread of coronavirus warranted it​


If you are in opposition to this, you are saying you would oppose the lockdown even when it was warranted by the4 spread of the coronavirus. Do you really take such a fundamentally stupid position? Do you oppose life guards pulling out swimmers from a pool when they swimming warrants action, because it interferes with the swimmer's freedom?

New York and Boston are *not* shut down. People are eating (out doors) in restaurants, working out, going to the store, etc.

Last I heard, there is unlimited congregating on Zoom for religious purposes.

Why do you think the Republican states are being so hard-hit in this virus peak. Does it have something to do with letting people infect each other?

I agree with you that Democrats care about protecting people, while Republicans care more about protecting pocketbooks. Well said, it is an easy choice.
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This idiot here is a perfect example of what you can expect from a Democratic candidate.

Yeah things are not shut down. You can't eat inside, but you can eat outside in the 30-40 degree weather at a few select restaurants. Who cares about all the restaurants that don't have outside dining or have permanently closed down due to the excessive lockdown restrictions put in place. And absolutely nobody cares or wants to dine indoor. Trust us, we're the Democrats and we are here to protect you, for your own good.
 
Red said:
@The Thriller

www.theguardian.com

Republicans closely resemble autocratic parties in Hungary and Turkey – study

Swedish university finds ‘dramatic shift’ in GOP under Trump, shunning democratic norms and encouraging violence
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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excellent find. Totally dispels the ridiculous argument that “both sides are the same.” One of our major parties has moved far into extremist illiberal positions. One party clearly doesn’t want to play this game of democracy anymore. One party is embracing authoritarianism.

This 2020 election is yes about policy. But More than that, it’s an election about whether we even want a democracy anymore. Democratic socialists, moderate Dems, and never trump conservatives should unite. We can argue about what the appropriate level of taxation should be once this crisis passes. Trump and the GOP must be defeated.
 
fishonjazz said:
It's weird that anyone would be surprised by either candidate winning.
In a 2 party extremely partisan system both candidates should always have a pretty good and even chance of winning.

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Historically speaking, a candidate as shallow, listless and insipid as Joe Biden would never win a Presidential election. I know we're talking about Biden v. Trump, but still.
 
Red said:
@The Thriller

www.theguardian.com

Republicans closely resemble autocratic parties in Hungary and Turkey – study

Swedish university finds ‘dramatic shift’ in GOP under Trump, shunning democratic norms and encouraging violence
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Another point, how and why did this happen?

Having a right wing echo chamber might make a ton of money. It might build up a loyal brainwashed base. But ultimately without hearing diverse opinions, the mechanisms that have build up Republican dominance politically at both state and federal levels, are acting as mechanisms for their own destruction. Fox News and am radio were assets for years. Are they anymore? What do you think?

Karen Stenner has an interesting view on this. Her research indicates that 30-40 percent of the population is vulnerable to having an authoritarian personality. Here’s a great interview:
podcasts.apple.com

Karen Stenner

Podcast Episode · The Good Fight · 03/13/2019 · 59m
podcasts.apple.com podcasts.apple.com
And
psmag.com

Authoritarianism: The Terrifying Trait That Trump Triggers

Latent authoritarianism is surprisingly common—and a threat to liberal democracy. Psychologist Karen Stenner explains how it is triggered.
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What do you think?
 
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