Jazz select Udoka Azubuike with pick 27 & trade Tony Bradley + pick 38 to the Pistons

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If it would have been Bane + Azuibuke we would all be partying in this streets. It is what it is.

I like Hughes more than Bane personally.

 

[Getting Traded]

also you all know that Udoka pulled a Pat Connaughton at the combine this year, right? he sandbagged his standing reach #'s to make his vertical look more explosive...


and it fooled plenty, givony was tweeting about udoka breaking the vert record for c's

Wilt claimed, and I say "alleged," that he had a 50-inch vertical. It's possible since he could touch the top of the backboard.

 

[jom2003]

I just had

i feel like the playoffs proved that small ball doesnt work. Or did the rockets win the championship without me knowing? How about the clippers? Celtics? All of them embraced small ball. How’d it work out?
The Lakers won with size, not despite of it. They had 3 legit bigs, Denver had 2, we had 1.

even the warriors relied on bigs like Bogut and McGee to win.

We lost a lot when we got rid of favors last year. I love this move rebuilding our frontline.

We aren't playing big or small. We are caught in between with this 90s old school formula of small guards+defensive center who can't shoot. This formula might work if you have big athletic 3D wings to help us against various matchup. Instead, we are extremely one dimensional that could easily be exploited by both small AND big lineups. Just watch us versus the Rockets and Lakers last season.

 

[The Thriller]

We aren't playing big or small. We are caught in between with this 90s old school formula of small guards+defensive center who can't shoot. This formula might work if you have big athletic 3D wings to help us against various matchup. Instead, we are extremely one dimensional that could easily be exploited by both small AND big lineups. Just watch us versus the Rockets and Lakers last season.

So improve upon the wings. You can find decent wings everywhere. Udoka is elite talent. You don’t just find 7 footers that can jump out of the gym like that.

I think the real focus is Conley. I didn’t want Conley. Seems like that’s the elephant in the room that some of you are ignoring. Rather than bash this draft why not focus on getting rid of the worthless aging 4 foot PG we have?

 

[jom2003]

So improve upon the wings. You can find decent wings everywhere. Udoka is elite talent. You don’t just find 7 footers that can jump out of the gym like that.

I think the real focus is Conley. I didn’t want Conley. Seems like that’s the elephant in the room that some of you are ignoring. Rather than bash this draft why not focus on getting rid of the worthless aging 4 foot PG we have?

That's why people were upset. We had a shot at improve our wings last night. Might be out only shot since quality wings in FA wouldn't be signing with us.

 

[My2Cents]

We stole the 38th pick from the Knicks yesterday by dropping 4 picks only to have them flip it for the 25th and 33rd.

Just my take but I think the Jazz wanted to move as far back as possible for UA and preferred the 27th pick. In any case, having the lower picks would not have altered the outcome. We would still have Azubuike.

 

[The Thriller]

That's why people were upset. We had a shot at improve our wings last night. Might be out only shot since quality wings in FA wouldn't be signing with us.

What do you call Elijah Hughes? We rebuilt our frontline while improving our wings. Are we still undersized? Yes. But until we unload Conley (or bench him) isn’t that always going to be the case?

 

[LoPo]

I just had

i feel like the playoffs proved that small ball doesnt work. Or did the rockets win the championship without me knowing? How about the clippers? Celtics? All of them embraced small ball. How’d it work out?
The Lakers won with size, not despite of it. They had 3 legit bigs, Denver had 2, we had 1.

even the warriors relied on bigs like Bogut and McGee to win.

We lost a lot when we got rid of favors last year. I love this move rebuilding our frontline.

But LA won because they sat Dwight and McGee to get the job done against a scrappy and small Miami team.

Denver and the Lakers are outliers with their bigs because they are incredibly unique bigs. Jokic and AD are dynamic offensively and capable defensively. We don't have that.

Last year, Toronto rotated various bigs to beat a team in GS that actually doesn't really rely on a big at all. But we all know they won due to injuries not because they had bigs.

It's a small ball game now. Bigs have roles but can't be the focus unless they are super dynamic.

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[NUMBERICA]

I just had

i feel like the playoffs proved that small ball doesnt work. Or did the rockets win the championship without me knowing? How about the clippers? Celtics? All of them embraced small ball. How’d it work out?
The Lakers won with size, not despite of it. They had 3 legit bigs, Denver had 2, we had 1.

even the warriors relied on bigs like Bogut and McGee to win.

We lost a lot when we got rid of favors last year. I love this move rebuilding our frontline.

This is just trash. If your bigs are Anthony Davis, Dwight Howard, and LEBRON ****ING JAMES maybe it’s a little bit different.

Our only bigs cannot play on the floor together and have ZEEEEEERO basketball skills. Gobert is cut in half in the playoffs because it turns out building your entire defense around one guy that can’t dribble, shoot, or pass doesn’t work against talented teams that implement actual strategy.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Hampton seems fine to me. It’s pick #27. I just want them to take a guy with upside.

We could’ve had him with pick 39, and if not, I felt there were better options than him with a more modern flavor

Ouch. That’s why you don’t trade until you’re on the clock. Not sure what the hurry was to make the deal early today.

IMO the jazz had tunnel vision, they wanted him and knew they could get him in the first since everyone called him a second rounder. This just proves the jazz don’t understand how to be creative in the draft. I mean they got pistol whipped by the Knicks of all teams.

Seriously? That is super embarrassing.

Why were we so eager to make that move early?

I wish I had an answer. I guess it’s every jazzfanz lot in life to suffer in agony

Grade the draft.
F -


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I give it a G. They don’t deserve a real letter grade for this **** up

They just drafted another Ostertag in the year 2020. Some things just never change, I guess...

Ostertag was a better ft shooter. Lol

I’m ready for new management.

Please god all I want for Christmas is new management

I cannot put into words what a sloppy puddle of diarrhea tonight is. I’m in complete awe.

Ironically I cleaned up a floor that had diarrhea on it last night. Lol. It was a sign of things to come.

7’7” wingspan, 41 inch vertical, 270 and played his senior season at age 20. Four year college player and just turned 21 this fall. Okongwu and Udoka were both drafted to be rim running, rebounding, rim protectors. Udoka is better and only a year older. Bigger, longer, more athletic. Jazz got a guy at 27 who is better than the 6th pick in the draft,

He’s younger than usual and hasn’t played basketball all his life. Centers take longer to develop. He won’t be ready.

Huh? Can’t share the floor with Rudy? He wasn’t drafted to do that. He was drafted to be a backup to Rudy which the jazz desperately need. Stupid to say he can’t pass. As far as shooting and dribbling, Rudy can’t do those things and he’s carved out a nice place in the league.
He was drafted to be a rim runner, finisher, defender and rebounder and he’s the best guy in the draft at doing those things.

You don’t reach for a backup center who by all accounts was a second round talent in the first. If this was the guy they really wanted we should’ve traded down again gained more assets. We are a small market team and can’t afford to reach like that for a guy who will be relegated to 15 min a night for the entire time here in Utah. So, if he does develop into a starting caliber center we can’t take advantage of that. It was wrong and unjustifiable to pick him where we did.

Bright side - I actually expect Udoka to be a solid backup big (maybe not immediately, but at some point).

Yay

If they used the 38th pick on him it would be much less bad, but I'd still be scratching my head.

There were better center options at that point sadly.

Dudes not just a dunker, but a legit post game/threat. The #'s are there for context.

Too bad we don’t run the offense through the post and won’t as long as Rudy is our center

This was the year to draft a four year guy who can step right in and be better than the guy he replaced. That’s exactly what the jazz did. Udoka should have been a lottery pick.

Lmao. You are a relic pushing for a relic

You don’t draft him for his post ability- you draft him to do what Rudy does.

Assuming he can do that, but there were more pressing needs than a backup roll man.

Justin Zanik and Dave Morway are describing Udoka like he's the next Shaq--like he's so big, so athletic and so powerful that he's basically a cheat code.

Then why wasn’t he picked #1. How did 26 other teams miss that and why weren’t the other three teams trading up to get him as he quote on quote slid in the draft. Probably because he’s not a cheat code.

The entire league is moving away from big guys who can’t shoot- so Rudy? Right?

Rudy is truely elite at what he does. And basically the longest player the league has ever seen which helps with lobs and things like that. He averaged 15 points last year

 

[Game6Conley]

GUYS GUYS GUYS GUYS GUYS... There is a blatant lie being peddaled in this thread and im gonna put an end to it right here and now in this next post

 

[Game6Conley]

The Vertical # is NOT LEGIT.... Look at his standing reach measurement for the combine 9'1...... Thats BOGUS...


6'11" players with 7'7" wingspans DONT HAVE 9'1" standing reaches... ok ? unless their built like a GIRAFFE...

 

[Game6Conley]

His vertical is fine, probably more like 33 inches, which is plenty explosive, Explosiveness is not his issue. He's just not as explosive as that vert would lead u to believe, becaUSE IT'S all based on a faulty standing reaCH MEASUREMENT ------ AKA THE PAT CONNAUGHTON...

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

This is just trash. If your bigs are Anthony Davis, Dwight Howard, and LEBRON ****ING JAMES maybe it’s a little bit different.

Our only bigs cannot play on the floor together and have ZEEEEEERO basketball skills. Gobert is cut in half in the playoffs because it turns out building your entire defense around one guy that can’t dribble, shoot, or pass doesn’t work against talented teams that implement actual strategy.

It's 2020 Dwight Howard dude.

 

[The Thriller]

This is just trash. If your bigs are Anthony Davis, Dwight Howard, and LEBRON ****ING JAMES maybe it’s a little bit different.

Our only bigs cannot play on the floor together and have ZEEEEEERO basketball skills. Gobert is cut in half in the playoffs because it turns out building your entire defense around one guy that can’t dribble, shoot, or pass doesn’t work against talented teams that implement actual strategy.

“Our bigs have zero basketball skills”
alright. I think I’ve seen all I need to here.

 

[Game6Conley]

Ya know many years back when Udoka first surfaced he used to be considered a top 5 player in the class, people would compare him to Shaq.

Kentucky contacted him the first day they were allowed to talk to recruits in that age group.

 

[Game6Conley]

Oh Udoka has some basketball skills... He's monstrously powerful.. Literally the most powerfully built kid I can ever recall seeing as an underclassman in HS.

 

[str8line]

His vertical is fine, probably more like 33 inches, which is plenty explosive, Explosiveness is not his issue. He's just not as explosive as that vert would lead u to believe, becaUSE IT'S all based on a faulty standing reaCH MEASUREMENT ------ AKA THE PAT CONNAUGHTON...

Yeah, 40 inch vertical is total BS. 33(or his coach said 37") is still damn good and he does get up/down/up really quick.

 

[Game6Conley]

Udoka is probably the strongest player in Jazz history.. Someone show us a picture of Karl Malone in his teenage years and then compare it to Udoka at the same age, you'll see it will look totally ridiculous.

 

[Game6Conley]

I kinda alluded to this in my initial comments on the Udoka pick but ima just rephrase it like this; Udoka can play with what people refer to as " a meanstreak" and when ur kinda bigger and stronger than everyone like he is, it sometimes can get out of hand in a number of different ways...

Im interested to see how that manifests itself in the NBA...


Like honestly from my personal opinion, i do feel like he could end up being one of the league leaders in technical fouls if he gets decent minutes.