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Rudy Gobert 5 years, $205M

whatthe said:
Ummm, I wouldn't be happy either with the blowback he got. He must have been hurt by it, but he has been tough enough not to complain which admireable. Don has a ton of character, don't worry about all this stuff you don't see, just trust he will be the same awesome dude that he is.
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Hurt over what? Using comments that exist under every single social media post to impact his feelings? Grow the **** up and realize 100% of people aren’t going to agree with you and get out of your feelings. If social media comment sections are his reality and they mean more than all the *** kissing he’s got thats on him. Donovan has publicity character and in reality is a fragile, ego driven, close minded ***.
 
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framer said:
You understand the difference between a restricted free agent and an unrestricted free agent, right?
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This. Donovan hasn’t been loyal for a second. Donovan grabbed all the money he possibly could and every incentive to benefit him, never gave a “thank you for the support” and will be gone the second he can.
 
TheGoldStandard said:
I would have loved for him to take a bigger discount, but if I were him, I wouldn't have either. I also wonder how much is based on achievements like his last contract ($500k for 1st team, 250k defense rating less than 100, 250k rebounds per game (don't recall#, but don't think he ever met it), $1MM all-star-which he achieved once...

I'd rather pay Gobert a bit more than market, which is what the Jazz did, than potentially lose him for nothing. And I think he has been a bit underpaid on his last contract for the value he brings, so it all evens out. And honestly, I get tired of hearing how he is a limited player on offense. So what. Look at what he does for our offense. He sets amazing wide screens and also sucks defenders back on the roll to prevent the lob leaving our guys WIDE open. Few big men can do that the way Rudy can. And his defense anchors this team.

I'm excited to see what this team can do. I think management did most of the right things this offseason by trimming players that didn't bring enough value, and bringing guys in that hopefully can.
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I believe the incentive based pay stays the same due to it being an extension. How they structured the amounts over the years is what will matter most. Hopefully they made it more fo a flat contract so it doesn’t increase so much on the back end.
 
oneye said:
Donovan is gone already so start preparing yourself for it. If you can’t see his total change in how he acts towards the fanbase/being here you’re being willfully naive. A lot of it was the social media comments on social justice issues IMO, but the dude couldn’t even acknowledge the contract he was given. Hasn’t said a positive thing about being here in 9 months, and is just playing along for the time he is forced to.
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The summer of 2025 is a long way away.
 
Rudy's gonna have a little somethin' somethin' for Portland next week, and it isn't even their fault.

That's one great thing about both Donovan and Gobert, getting the bag isn't going to make them fat and lazy. They both have other demons they are chasing.
 
MT Steve said:
2020-21
2021-22
2022-23
2023-24
2024-25

I counted five, but I'm not opposed to doing a recount if you ask nicely.
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I mean I guess I was stating it more in calendar year status. In 2024 he’ll be super max eligible. 2021 is a week away. 3.5 years. When he doesn’t sign that extension, the PO is only a year away. At that point you’re going to trade him, and the noise will start a year before that if his plans are to leave. By the 2023-24 season there will be noise/drama around his name. By the summer of ‘24 we’ll be tired of the rumors, he won’t sign the extension and that will be a wrap on his Jazz career. A year earlier than any of this needed to be because of that PO, but it is what it is now. The man could not after a $195 million extension with every incentive say “I love Utah, I love the organization, I love the fanbase, and I’m happy to continue my career here”. Heck he couldn’t even mention Quin like Rudy did. With Donovan it was a “you owe me this” vibe vs Rudy where it was “I’m grateful to be here, and I’m thankful to be here” vibe. Donovan is here because he was a RFA. Rudy is here because he wants to be.

Tell you what everyone. I’ll bet anyone who wants to $100 each that Donovan Mitchell’s last full season as a member of the Jazz is 2023-24. If I’m wrong, and I would like to be, I’ll honor it.

Rudy was the neglected one with Hayward and Donovan as far as praise and yet guess who’s still here and actually gives a **** about the franchise and community? Rudy will be here beyond the latest flame too.
 
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oneye said:
I mean I guess I was stating it more in calendar year status. In 2024 he’ll be super max eligible. 2021 is a week away. 3.5 years. When he doesn’t sign that extension, the PO is only a year away. At that point you’re going to trade him, and the noise will start a year before that if his plans are to leave. By the 2023-24 season there will be noise/drama around his name. By the summer of ‘24 we’ll be tired of the rumors, he won’t sign the extension and that will be a wrap on his Jazz career. A year earlier than any of this needed to be because of that PO, but it is what it is now. The man could not after a $195 million extension with every incentive say “I love Utah, I love the organization, I love the fanbase, and I’m happy to continue my career here”. Heck he couldn’t even mention Quin like Rudy did. With Donovan it was a “you owe me this” vibe vs Rudy where it was “I’m grateful to be here, and I’m thankful to be here” vibe. Donovan is here because he was a RFA. Rudy is here because he wants to be.

Tell you what everyone. I’ll bet anyone who wants to $100 each that Donovan Mitchell’s last full season as a member of the Jazz is 2023-24. If I’m wrong, and I would like to be, I’ll honor it.

Rudy was the neglected one with Hayward and Donovan as far as praise and yet guess who’s still here and actually gives a **** about the franchise and community? Rudy will be here beyond the latest flame too.
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Do you have a paper chain made for when he bolts? I could probably buy a bunch of chocolate advent calendars to equal 3.5 years for you.

Do you think falling head over heals for Donovan so much more than anyone else here (to the point of repetitively telling us how much we need to appreciate him and buy his products so he feels wanted) has in any way impacted your vehemence after you seem to feel rejected and abandoned for a perceived lack of reciprocity?
 
It looks to me that with this contract our flexibility is gone barring luxury tax via trades.

I expect Conley will have a solid year, but letting him expire all but eliminates our ability to improve the team.

We will see how motivated Ryan Smith is. If he is in it to win it then... Conley has to be considered an asset like the Warriors used a trade exception from the Durant S&T to acquire D'Angelo Russell and then to turn him in to Wiggins. Doing so allowed them to maintain the flexibility at a high luxury tax cost. It has also allowed them to remain potential suitors in a variety of player sweepstakes. Letting Durant go without getting anything in return would have been a move to not compete during their window. Much cheaper move, but much less flexibility.

If our option is to let Conley walk or to go on with him, I think the latter makes some sense. Then again, its not my mulah.

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The Jazz Wonderbra said:
It looks to me that with this contract our flexibility is gone barring luxury tax via trades.

I expect Conley will have a solid year, but letting him expire all but eliminates our ability to improve the team.

We will see how motivated Ryan Smith is. If he is in it to win it then... Conley has to be considered an asset like the Warriors used a trade exception from the Durant S&T to acquire D'Angelo Russell and then to turn him in to Wiggins. Doing so allowed them to maintain the flexibility at a high luxury tax cost. It has also allowed them to remain potential suitors in a variety of player sweepstakes. Letting Durant go without getting anything in return would have been a move to not compete during their window. Much cheaper move, but much less flexibility.

If our option is to let Conley walk or to go on with him, I think the latter makes some sense. Then again, its not my mulah.

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Well one was Durant and we have an aging Mike Conley so there’s that.
 
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