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The Ringer VIDEO - teh Jazzz r gud

MT Steve said:
It's a flattering video, but I kind of dislike it. I felt it was inaccurate in a few places, and very surfacey analysis overall.

For example, he mentions a few times our propensity for forcing turnovers, but we are literally dead last in the NBA at that. He also says he's concerned how we'll fare if our 3 pt shot isn't falling, but you literally only need to look at our last two games alone to see us survive an entire game of poor 3 pt shooting (Pacers) and an entire half of it (Celtics).

I don't know, maybe it's unfair to expect the media to suddenly be Jazz experts.
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The thing that annoyed me the most was him doubling down on putting the Jazz 6th in his power rankings.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Has an OPJ buyout as a possibility been tossed around?
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Only by the highest of authorities.

Calling the shot

There was talk about a Kevin Love buyout from some report a couple weeks back. Honestly, it makes no sense, but is funny that it got reported as such. Beyond this season, Love is still owed $60-someodd million. Winning and legacy is important, but $60M is a lot. But I'm not here to talk about...
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rjfan said:
We're putting them in a real uncomfortable position. With us atop the league, they actually have to start watch us play.
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We could win the title and they’d still tell us we weren’t contenders.
 
cooldude32 said:
I'm confused how the Ringer makes this video but has the Jazz 6th in their power rankings this week.
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Ringer are a bunch of Boston loving nerds... they don’t get to ride with us.
 
The void... pfffttt... the only void KOC needs to worry about is the void in his sex life.
 
The whole you have to have a superstar thing is kind of valid but you really have to have a superstar creator or a “closer”. Don can definitely be that. Mike can create at a high level. Every team needs shots to go down. It’s a ****ing make or miss league. The fouls drawing thing is also kinda funny. The refs stop falling for as much ******** in the playoffs... its a major part of the reason Harden, Derozan, and others aren’t as effective. You need shot makers... it’s why Kawhi shines because he can hit that midrange stuff at a high level and get it whenever he wants.

I don’t think we are better than the Lakers but what happens to the Lakers of AD or Lebron aren’t shooting well? They will struggle... what happens if we don’t shoot well... we will struggle. If we are healthy I think we have a shot against anyone.
 
cooldude32 said:
I did but but I'm surprised he even give the Jazz praise if he feels that way.
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Like I said earlier... he had us as a play in team to start the season... think he had Phoenix, NO, Portland, the LA teams, Denver, Dallas all above us.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I think the Indiana game showed how we respond when the long ball isn't falling. We attacked, got good inside looks, and kept shooting. The ship kind of corrected itself. But he is right about our free throw rate, it is abysmal. We need to have that kind of plan as a back up while we get the 3 ball cooking again.
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Agreed it needs improvement, but if the 3’s are falling why put the game in the hands of the refs. In fact, our style takes the game out of the refs hands more so. I like it.


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BabyPeterzz said:
Agreed it needs improvement, but if the 3’s are falling why put the game in the hands of the refs. In fact, our style takes the game out of the refs hands more so. I like it.


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Interesting point. Still obviously a lot of other ways they can change nitrile and even hide behind “hey, it’s your style of play that caused the discrepancy.” But interest thought I’ll have to think about.
 
idiot said:
Interesting point, so I went and looked up some things
  • Jazz FT-rate and FT/game are right in the middle of league average (17th & 14th respectively)
  • Some of the Jazz's worst 3-point % games were also those with the most FT taken (so they do at least sometimes adjust, it seems)
  • 3 of the Jazz's top-5 FT-taking games were among the team's 5 losses (the other two losses were the very worst FT-taking game, as well as one somewhere in the middle as far as FTs taken) -- that surprised me a bit; FTs taken does not seem to be an indicator for success for the Jazz (small sample size issues of course)
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I'd speculate that some of those games were the early games where teams were straight up mugging out shooters and were having success with it. They got called for more fouls, but they were able to wreck our rotations.

The Jazz seem to have adjusted from that, especially in second halves. We just use our defense to stay close (our defense has improved VASTLY from those first few games) and run them through a gauntlet of screens until they burn out from the expended effort and we bury them in the 3rd.

It is amazing how often that same movie has played this month when teams try to body us.
 
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