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oneye said:
He may not have been cutting normally, might not be jumping normally. It could be small things, but after his fit he’ll be playing obviously and if he sustains a major injury or setback and your the Jazz medical staff, all you can do is feel like “don’t look at me”
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I'm gonna go ahead and guess all those small things were there the three ****ing days he was practicing and scrimmaging too... maybe don't wait until the day of to have such a strong opinion.
 
He’s talking to the media.



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oneye said:
He may not have been cutting normally, might not be jumping normally. It could be small things, but after his fit he’ll be playing obviously and if he sustains a major injury or setback and your the Jazz medical staff, all you can do is feel like “don’t look at me”
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So unless the guy is 100% healthy he shouldn't play? Tape or brace the **** out of the ankle and let him go play. I realize there are times when guys sustain other injuries because they over compensate, but if that was a clear and real risk yesterday it is likely a risk a week from now and was definitely a risk on Saturday when they cleared him to play.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Can you blame him if he is ready? Everyone is pissed. But we need to know who made the decision to keep him out of the game and demand their head on a silver platter.
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Yes I’ll blame him if he gets a worse injury or a massive setback in the coming days/weeks. You all will as well. Golden States training staff was slandered a ton for letting KD play when he did and tore his Achilles. The Jazz sided on the side of caution for him here and now he threw a fit to get his way. If he tears his ACL and is out for a year you’ll all be crying they let him play too. Damned if you do damned if you don’t. Yes it could have been handled better, that doesn’t mean he’s ready just because he says he is. He isn’t a doctor, and he admits it still has soreness.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
So unless the guy is 100% healthy he shouldn't play? Tape or brace the **** out of the ankle and let him go play. I realize there are times when guys sustain other injuries because they over compensate, but if that was a clear and real risk yesterday it is likely a risk a week from now and was definitely a risk on Saturday when they cleared him to play.
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Yes and? It could still be a risk. But he threw a public fit so he got his way. Now we will see if there are consequences.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
So I think it's pretty clear now:

Mitchell wasnt happy with his rehab progression so he got his own medical team to take over.

The Jazz's staff is upset, feeling undermined, so when they got the opportunity they held him out of the game to send a message.

The question is, one that we can't possibly know for certain, is the staff legitimately making a decision they believe in or just doing it to send a message?
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Ummm. this doesn't make it sound any better.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
So I think it's pretty clear now:

Mitchell wasnt happy with his rehab progression so he got his own medical team to take over.

The Jazz's staff is upset, feeling undermined, so when they got the opportunity they held him out of the game to send a message.

The question is, one that we can't possibly know for certain, is the staff legitimately making a decision they believe in or just doing it to send a message?
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Agree with this. Fire the jazz training staff. Gotta keep spida happy!
 
I’m not a medical professional, but occasionally do “fitness for duty” evaluations. It is incredibly difficult to predict how someone will respond in the future and therefore any warning signs should be given extreme caution. Being wrong can have serious, career ending consequences, for the athlete and the doctors.

If the Jazz medical staff saw something that worried them in shoot arounds they did the absolute right thing by saying so, even if they had previously cleared him to play. Having the courage to be wrong and change your mind, even if last minute or unpopular, makes a good health care professional.

This was definitely bad PR, and may have been bad for working relationships, but I have no reason to believe this was bad healthcare.
 
Ujfanatic said:
I’m not a medical professional, but occasionally do “fitness for duty” evaluations. It is incredibly difficult to predict how someone will respond in the future and therefore any warning signs should be given extreme caution. Being wrong can have serious, career ending consequences, for the athlete and the doctors.

If the Jazz medical staff saw something that worried them in shoot arounds they did the absolute right thing by saying so, even if they had previously cleared him to play. Having the courage to be wrong and change your mind, even if last minute or unpopular, makes a good health care professional.

This was definitely bad PR, and may have been bad for working relationships, but I have no reason to believe this was bad healthcare.
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Don't think anyone is saying it's bad healthcare. It's bad PR for sure. We all just wonder how much of this is bad hubris and over confidence in beating the grizzlies in G1 without Don... which if that's the case it has backfired spectacularly.
 
KqWIN said:
Did Don blindside the entire team by not letting anyone know until hours before tip off for his image? Is he tanking the team because it looks better for him that we lost?

I know Don cares about his image and I know he is very passive aggressive, but there is a major systemic failure for the Jazz. If there was any doubt that Mitchell would play, it needed to be on the injury report and at the very least his own teammates should have known. Someone has to lose their job over this. It won't be Don.
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The only thing that is absolutely clear is that the Jazz should never have cleared him to begin with.
 
Ujfanatic said:
I’m not a medical professional, but occasionally do “fitness for duty” evaluations. It is incredibly difficult to predict how someone will respond in the future and therefore any warning signs should be given extreme caution. Being wrong can have serious, career ending consequences, for the athlete and the doctors.

If the Jazz medical staff saw something that worried them in shoot arounds they did the absolute right thing by saying so, even if they had previously cleared him to play. Having the courage to be wrong and change your mind, even if last minute or unpopular, makes a good health care professional.

This was definitely bad PR, and may have been bad for working relationships, but I have no reason to believe this was bad healthcare.
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The Jazz training staff felt so strong about it they stopped it the way they did......If he tears an ACL and ruins his career in the next couple weeks he can thank himself and his representation.
 
NUMBERICA said:
The only thing that is absolutely clear is that the Jazz should never have cleared him to begin with.
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I agree, Donovan is getting to play because he threw a fit. We’ll see how it goes now. The Jazz training staff CLEARLY didn’t want him playing so much they pulled it.
 
oneye said:
I agree, Donovan is getting to play because he threw a fit. We’ll see how it goes now. The Jazz training staff CLEARLY didn’t want him playing so much they pulled it.
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He’s such a baby... how dare he complain about not getting to do his job. Real winners would sit there quietly and give complete trust to the doctor.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
He’s such a baby... how dare he complain about not getting to do his job. Real winners would sit there quietly and give complete trust to the doctor.
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Yes. You should take doctors medical advice especially when they are airing on the side of caution. You should. If he ends up injured in a week you gonna question them?
 
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