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Kirilenko : October MVP Euroleague

LogGrad98 said:
This just shows how much his ego drives him. The year he was our ONLY good player really he shined, All-star, top tier stats, etc. When he was just expected to play decent ball without being the center of the universe he collapsed into a fit of tears and whinyness. He is seriously mentally weak and IMO should just stay in Russia. He will be much happier, much more productive, can pretend he is the only basketball player in the world, and won't have to worry about *gasp* competing for accolades with other highly-talented players.
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Couple of nice posts from logGrad here and in his follow-up.

AK is a classic "tweener" in the NBA. He doesn't have the skills or shooting ability to play SF and he's just not big enough to withstand the pounding in the NBA at PF. The CBA is full of 6'5" PF's and 6'2" SG's who put up amazing stats every night. And it's the same with Euro ball. AK is a "big" forward in his league. He's got the talent to get rebounds, block some shots and utilize his crazy drive to the hoop. In the NBA, he gets exposed when play gets a little physical. He can't afford to play off his man because EVERY team has FIVE guys who can hit shots (well, nearly every team). I was so tired of seeing AK sag back and the opposing SF hit jump shot after jump shot, or play up and get taken off the dribble. AK has a good game and physique to be successful in Euro ball. As for the NBA, he's lost a step and an inch or so of jumping ability. And that was what made him a rising star 8 years ago. His time is now past as anything but an overpriced role player.
 
Ok slapper. Name 3 other players that were or are all-stars who let their performance drop by damn-near half after another "star" joined their team then cried about not getting more touches in a post-game interview during the playoffs.

We can wait.




Crying about entitlements such as playing time and the role on the team is in no way comparable to the lock-out. The lock-out is occurring because a labor group that creates the product being sold feels they are not getting enough of the profits from the sale of that product. At its core this is the same labor dispute in every single strike/lock-out that has ever happened in the history of unions in this country. It is no different than the auto-workers striking because they feel their wage is not fair compared to the profits generated by the sales of automobiles by the car companies. It is no different than a company locking out their workers when they couldn't reach a contract to put pressure on the union. It has absolutely nothing at all to do with a spoiled kid mad that his declining production is not being rewarded with a bigger role on the team.

Like I said, I am happy for AK. I have generally always liked AK and thought he had the tools to be the game-changer so often, but he just never brought it with the Jazz. Hopefully he can get the accolades he craves in Russian. And I don't care if we ever see him back in a Jazz uniform.
 
The basic breakdown between the two sides in this dispute I believe is the "why" as in why AK cried but that has been argued over more than I care to remember so I digress.
 
This is endless debate between fans who think it is all AK's problem and between fans who saw what Sloan and partialy Deron Williams did to his career. Getting old. Let it go. AK is a happy man now.
 
GlassEater said:
Couple of nice posts from logGrad here and in his follow-up.

AK is a classic "tweener" in the NBA. He doesn't have the skills or shooting ability to play SF and he's just not big enough to withstand the pounding in the NBA at PF. The CBA is full of 6'5" PF's and 6'2" SG's who put up amazing stats every night. And it's the same with Euro ball. AK is a "big" forward in his league. He's got the talent to get rebounds, block some shots and utilize his crazy drive to the hoop. In the NBA, he gets exposed when play gets a little physical. He can't afford to play off his man because EVERY team has FIVE guys who can hit shots (well, nearly every team). I was so tired of seeing AK sag back and the opposing SF hit jump shot after jump shot, or play up and get taken off the dribble. AK has a good game and physique to be successful in Euro ball. As for the NBA, he's lost a step and an inch or so of jumping ability. And that was what made him a rising star 8 years ago. His time is now past as anything but an overpriced role player.
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AK doesn't have the skills? He definitely has enough skills to be a SF. His shooting was bad, but he wasn't a god awful shooter. He was a perfectly fine SF. He was just in a system that effectively minimized all of his natural talents. His best position was definitely PF, but I wouldn't go as far as to call him a tweener because he was perfectly capable of playing either position at a high level.
 
tonstermits said:
I love how you are trying to be smart and clever but you are not on point at all. The mommy and daddy computer bit is played out and your exclamation marks wreak of stupidity. Don't respond to this because the thought of me having to read anything remotely similar to that pile of **** post makes me want to kill puppies.
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WHAT!!!!!!!! Exclamation marks wreak of stupidity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????? Thought of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! reading!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! killing puppies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! because of exlamation marks wreak of stupidity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ............ awwwww yes I have you right where I want you. :) WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
LogGrad98 said:
Ok slapper. Name 3 other players that were or are all-stars who let their performance drop by damn-near half after another "star" joined their team then cried about not getting more touches in a post-game interview during the playoffs.

We can wait.




Crying about entitlements such as playing time and the role on the team is in no way comparable to the lock-out. The lock-out is occurring because a labor group that creates the product being sold feels they are not getting enough of the profits from the sale of that product. At its core this is the same labor dispute in every single strike/lock-out that has ever happened in the history of unions in this country. It is no different than the auto-workers striking because they feel their wage is not fair compared to the profits generated by the sales of automobiles by the car companies. It is no different than a company locking out their workers when they couldn't reach a contract to put pressure on the union. It has absolutely nothing at all to do with a spoiled kid mad that his declining production is not being rewarded with a bigger role on the team.

Like I said, I am happy for AK. I have generally always liked AK and thought he had the tools to be the game-changer so often, but he just never brought it with the Jazz. Hopefully he can get the accolades he craves in Russian. And I don't care if we ever see him back in a Jazz uniform.
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"Ok slapper. Name 3 other players that were or are all-stars who let their performance drop by damn-near half after another "star" joined their team then cried about not getting more touches in a post-game interview during the playoffs.

We can wait." <------ Wow! You think my comment is so idiotic and then you ask me this question! And OH YES IM USING MY EXLAMAT!ON PO!NTS! First of all pudding lips, I dont take orders from anyone. You,,, "Name 3 other players that .... bla bla...." Im not on a game show jack ***! YOU! Telling me what to do??? I dont answer to anyone. I DONT NEED TO. Your spitting demands like I owe something to you. If you want a reason why your dad did what he did to you, ask him, he owes you an explanation. I dont owe you s***. You want an answer why your so weird? Dig deep. :)
 
In other words, you got nothing. Big shock there.
 
Wow. It's always sad when someone reaches the point of 'your dad ..', name calling and stuff. Never really understood those types of *responses.

*except for the one time p_will/Cy deserved it .. and I got my well earned/well deserved infraction.
 
Lakers_Slapper said:
"Ok slapper. Name 3 other players that were or are all-stars who let their performance drop by damn-near half after another "star" joined their team then cried about not getting more touches in a post-game interview during the playoffs.

We can wait." <------ Wow! You think my comment is so idiotic and then you ask me this question! And OH YES IM USING MY EXLAMAT!ON PO!NTS! First of all pudding lips, I dont take orders from anyone. You,,, "Name 3 other players that .... bla bla...." Im not on a game show jack ***! YOU! Telling me what to do??? I dont answer to anyone. I DONT NEED TO. Your spitting demands like I owe something to you. If you want a reason why your dad did what he did to you, ask him, he owes you an explanation. I dont owe you s***. You want an answer why your so weird? Dig deep. :)
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You won't name them because you can't. AK's a bitch and has been one for about six years now. It's fitting that you love him so.
 
PKM said:
Wow. It's always sad when someone reaches the point of 'your dad ..', name calling and stuff. Never really understood those types of *responses.

*except for the one time p_will/Cy deserved it .. and I got my well earned/well deserved infraction.
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Glad to know I have the extrme power of making you revert to childish/grotesque beastality insults.
 
AK keeps shining in Euroleague - in a win over Unicaja he had 17pts, 12reb, 6stl,3blk and 2ast. He leads Euroleague in blk and reb and is 2d in efficiency rankings and 4th in steals.
 
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