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Andy Larsen is on point

1000% and he unloaded on everyone... gonna guess he gets some side eye from the players, coaches, and front office personnel.

Not all heros wear capes.
 
I agree with Larsen a lot and I think most of what he points out is spot in. His building a roster logic ignores legit tradeoffs and is naive from my perspective. Kawhi didn't choose Utah and he didn't bring PG with him to Utah. Our reality is not the same as markets where superstars self select. That doesnt mean we cant win but it is not a level playing field.
 
gomretat said:
I agree with Larsen a lot and I think most of what he points out is spot in. His building a roster logic ignores legit tradeoffs and is naive from my perspective. Kawhi didn't choose Utah and he didn't bring PG with him to Utah. Our reality is not the same as markets where superstars self select. That doesnt mean we cant win but it is not a level playing field.
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I guess I missed the part where Andy suggested bringing in two super stars.
 
gomretat said:
I agree with Larsen a lot and I think most of what he points out is spot in. His building a roster logic ignores legit tradeoffs and is naive from my perspective. Kawhi didn't choose Utah and he didn't bring PG with him to Utah. Our reality is not the same as markets where superstars self select. That doesnt mean we cant win but it is not a level playing field.
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You're making a total straw man argument here. The Jazz whiffed on the margins this year, and every time that's been brought up with granular detail you just say "nah, these are professionals".

Well so are the Kings. People at every level **** up and the Jazz did a bad job on the details. That is coming back to bite us right now and it's not as though that was unforeseen.
 
NUMBERICA said:
You're making a total straw man argument here. The Jazz whiffed on the margins this year, and every time that's been brought up with granular detail you just say "nah, these are professionals".

Well so are the Kings. People at every level **** up and the Jazz did a bad job on the details. That is coming back to bite us right now and it's not as though that was unforeseen.
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Everyone lol'd when I suggested we messed up the cap math putting us just a hair in the tax... these guys don't miss... its their job!

There is a reason player XYZ was released or doesn't have a job... yada yada yada.
 
gomretat said:
I agree with Larsen a lot and I think most of what he points out is spot in. His building a roster logic ignores legit tradeoffs and is naive from my perspective. Kawhi didn't choose Utah and he didn't bring PG with him to Utah. Our reality is not the same as markets where superstars self select. That doesnt mean we cant win but it is not a level playing field.
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There is zero tradeoff to trading for Torrey Craig instead of Matt Thomas from a salary perspective... it would have netted a guy that would be in the rotation and useful... another team with more ample talent on the wing went ahead and got him... all it cost was $117k... no picks.

We didn't have the salary for PJ Tucker, but I think every contending team made an addition that has proved useful. We thumbed our damn holes.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
There is zero tradeoff to trading for Torrey Craig instead of Matt Thomas from a salary perspective... it would have netted a guy that would be in the rotation and useful... another team with more ample talent on the wing went ahead and got him... all it cost was $117k... no picks.

We didn't have the salary for PJ Tucker, but I think every contending team made an addition that has proved useful. We thumbed our damn holes.
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nuh uh we got...
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mat thomas
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
There is zero tradeoff to trading for Torrey Craig instead of Matt Thomas from a salary perspective... it would have netted a guy that would be in the rotation and useful... another team with more ample talent on the wing went ahead and got him... all it cost was $117k... no picks.

We didn't have the salary for PJ Tucker, but I think every contending team made an addition that has proved useful. We thumbed our damn holes.
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I got laughed out of a thread I started for suggesting we trade for Tucker. He is washed according to JazzFanz.
 
White Chocolate said:
I got laughed out of a thread I started for suggesting we trade for Tucker. He is washed according to JazzFanz.
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So were Batum and Blake... its almost like when vets get in ****** situations they stop trying. Its pretty predictable.
 
White Chocolate said:
I got laughed out of a thread I started for suggesting we trade for Tucker. He is washed according to JazzFanz.
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Well if I was critical of the idea, I probably said something about how the Jazz have no assets, are capped out, and would have nothing to send to match salary that the Jazz would be willing to part with and that they would want.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Well if I was critical of the idea, I probably said something about how the Jazz have no assets, are capped out, and would have nothing to send to match salary that the Jazz would be willing to part with and that they would want.
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Which was valid but two different things. Saying he was washed was the sentiment and that he isn’t guarding anyone elite. Come to find out he’s guarding Durant pretty damn well. We could certainly use him right now. We could have him as a small ball 5 when Rudy goes to the bench or at PF and take turns on Kawhi/George with Royce.
 
White Chocolate said:
Which was valid but two different things. Saying he was washed was the sentiment and that he isn’t guarding anyone elite. Come to find out he’s guarding Durant pretty damn well. We could certainly use him right now. We could have him as a small ball 5 when Rudy goes to the bench or at PF and take turns on Kawhi/George with Royce.
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He is vastly preferable to Favors and Niang, and he would've been able to replace both of them (with some modifications to the rotation). In other words; word. Would've been nice.
 
White Chocolate said:
Which was valid but two different things. Saying he was washed was the sentiment and that he isn’t guarding anyone elite. Come to find out he’s guarding Durant pretty damn well. We could certainly use him right now. We could have him as a small ball 5 when Rudy goes to the bench or at PF and take turns on Kawhi/George with Royce.
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I thought that was why we got Ersan?
 
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