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White Chocolate said:
I like how people say we wouldn’t make the playoffs without Rudy like that is such a bonafide fact.

Our entire defensive scheme revolves around funneling players to Rudy. We wouldn’t keep the same scheme lmao. If you replaced Rudy with say a Capela or Turner and we had Tucker and Crowder or players like that we’d be a title contender.

Dame
Mitchell
Crowder
Tucker
Capela

Royce and Ingles off the bench.

Explain to me how that wouldn’t work.
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People around here don't realize that NBA championships haven't been won built around defense first centers for decades. The last time a team won while substantially built with a center defender, it was Tyson Chandler who was the 4th or 5th best player on that Dallas team.

We can win a title with Rudy, but he can't be our 1st or 2nd best player. I feel like all these homers completely forgot what happened against the Clippers. Rudy was played irrelevant. They want to blame anything but the player, but Rudy doesn't dominate postseason games. It's not the NBA these days. I don't blame Rudy. He is who he is. And he's not going to learn how to stretch the floor or post up or do anything but roll.

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Bodhi said:
Yeah, seems easy. I’m in.
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If you couldn’t get Capela or Turner and decent enough assets to turn into wing defenders back in trade for Gobert something is wrong with people’s evaluation of him on this site.
 
White Chocolate said:
If you couldn’t get Capela or Turner and decent enough assets to turn into wing defenders back in trade for Gobert something is wrong with people’s evaluation of him on this site.
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So Atlanta trades you Capela and assets for Rudy?

But why?
 
Bodhi said:
LOL, this!

YEAH GUYS!! Who says you can’t win without Rudy…..like….say…..just spitballing:

Don
Dame
Ingram
Zion
Capela

bench:

Tatum
AD
Kyrie

whole new defensive scheme, BAM!
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You said Bam and I think you are right… we should get Bam too.
 
Capela owned Rudy during both the Rockets series. I can't see them doing that trade at all lol. Capela can actually catch a bounce pass too
 
White Chocolate said:
Why wouldn’t they? They have assets why not turn a couple into a top-10 player in the league?

Trae and Rudy would be a perfect match.
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Well ****, there you go JZ. Do that deal, do the other one to get Dame and there’s your chip.

Easy peezy brother
 
White Chocolate said:
Why wouldn’t they? They have assets why not turn a couple into a top-10 player in the league?

Trae and Rudy would be a perfect match.
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Well, I do agree that Trae would be good for Rudy. I think Trae would know where and when to get Rudy the ball. One of the things that pissed me off this year was how often someone decided to throw a bullet pass at Rudy's feet in traffic. Conley was as guilty as anyone.
 
Jazz would be a bottom ten team on defense if you trade Rudy for Capella. They'd probably drop offensively as well, but still be top 10. Making the playoffs would be possible, but far from a guarantee
 
LoPo said:
People around here don't realize that NBA championships haven't been won built around defense first centers for decades. The last time a team won while substantially built with a center defender, it was Tyson Chandler who was the 4th or 5th best player on that Dallas team.

We can win a title with Rudy, but he can't be our 1st or 2nd best player. I feel like all these homers completely forgot what happened against the Clippers. Rudy was played irrelevant. They want to blame anything but the player, but Rudy doesn't dominate postseason games. It's not the NBA these days. I don't blame Rudy. He is who he is. And he's not going to learn how to stretch the floor or post up or do anything but roll.

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Keep parroting stupid talking points lmfao
 
If youre playing the historical precedent for a championship card, then you trade everything to get a 6'8 star as your best player. Building around a small score first guard is basically unheard of to win a ring before the one ring Curry before acquiring Durant, and Donovan isn't Curry.
 
Hearsky said:
Well, I do agree that Trae would be good for Rudy. I think Trae would know where and when to get Rudy the ball. One of the things that pissed me off this year was how often someone decided to throw a bullet pass at Rudy's feet in traffic. Conley was as guilty as anyone.
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Conley was not guilty of that. They had incredible PNR chemistry. Pretty sure their points per possession was by far the highest of any duo with enough volume for PNR.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
If youre playing the historical precedent for a championship card, then you trade everything to get a 6'8 star as your best player. Building around a small score first guard is basically unheard of to win a ring before the one ring Curry before acquiring Durant, and Donovan isn't Curry.
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But my actual thoughts are thinking like this is stupid as hell. You play to win with the cards your dealt. The Jazz likely can't improve by trading Gobert. Their best bet is optimizing around Mitchell/Gobert/Conley. That means getting better defenders to cover for Mitchell's lack of defensive impact. Getting a more versatile roster to make adjustments with on the margins in playoff series
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Conley was not guilty of that. They had incredible PNR chemistry. Pretty sure their points per possession was by far the highest of any duo with enough volume for PNR.
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I saw it often. Maybe because it was something I was looking for. Not knocking Conley, because I think he did have overall have good PNR chemistry with Rudy. But way too many badly placed passes to someone that isn't built to go below his knees to catch.
 
Hearsky said:
I saw it often. Maybe because it was something I was looking for. Not knocking Conley, because I think he did have overall have good PNR chemistry with Rudy. But way too many badly placed passes to someone that isn't built to go below his knees to catch.
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Maybe because you were looking for it you are remembering the bad ones more than the good ones.
 
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