Because only one player on the Utah Jazz has the ball all game, right?
You do know that Mitchell still average the most touches on the team per game and had the longest possession time per touch, right?
Keep being goofy.
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You do know that Mitchell still average the most touches on the team per game and had the longest possession time per touch, right?
Keep being goofy.
Yeah, that's probably accurate, but I do think the latest iteration placed a larger burden on Gobert and made things easier for Mitchell.
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I don't think most realize this. The time to make a bigger pivot was either last year. Next year there is an opportunity to pivot as well. Lots of reasons why, but cap minutia will aid the cause next year. We also will likely convey the pick to Memphis so there is less catastrophic downside should we make a BIG move that doesn't work out.
We need to make some moves to add rotation guys that are viable playoff options. Quin needs to look at what his mentor did this postseason and realize you can't just be one thing if you want to go all the way. If we nail the draft and find a gem then there is hope. I'd be opportunistic this offseason but I'm only trading Bojan/JC if we get 120% value or if it becomes necessary because Conley walks and we need some help at pg.
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I just don't see how the two biggest acquisitions of the Don and Rudy era were brought in to support Don. Bojan and especially Mike are there to get the best out of Rudy. Maybe you could make the argument that Bojan helps both, but Bojan was brought in as an alternative to Favors at the same time Mike was being added. I don't see how Conley supports a Don led vision at all. Because Don gets to be the 2nd PG with Joe? Yeah, that's awesome....
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Much easier for Don when we take the ball out of his hands.
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JC for Marcus Smart is interesting. Not happening though because I suspect JC is on Don’s “do not trade list.” I suspect that list consists of JC and Royce.
You realize that Mitchell is one of the best catch and shoot 3point shooters in the NBA, right? So yeah, having an experienced PG is a huge help to him. As it is to Gobert. I'm not some moron who is only going to frame everything for my side of the argument unlike you lmao.
But also, the Jazz constantly looking for a starting PG is a product of them having the mindset that MItchell needs a PG next to him to reach his full potential and hold him back from embracing the negative aspects of his game.
I really hope one day Mitchell gets to be on a team with no other ball-handlers so he can have a 100% usage rate so morons like Lopo can finally be happy.
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I agree. I think it would be very hard for both sides honestly. Smart is a big part of the DNA of that team. And without ball dominant Kemba anymore, I think Smart may have even more value next to Brown and Tatum. In many ways, Boston should see him as a poor man's Jrue Holiday.
I'd love the deal, but just don't see it happening.
Wait, is your idea of "building around" just a stats based thing? Like building around Mitchell to you is just letting him have the ball 24/7?
If so, then holy **** you are as stupid as you expect an Alabama University fan to be.
LoPo
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You can try to pick up stats here and there that support your argument, but you're just wrong. I concede on Bojan being a move that could be argued supports both.
Mike Conley, however, was a terrible choice for getting the best out of Donovan. We should have paid more for Jrue. Sure need a guy who can pass, but we needed a less ball dominant guy who was a great defender more.
LoPo
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Jrue Holiday. We needed Jrue Holiday.
We didn't need Missing Mike. But now we are stuck with him as our only hope.
Missing Mike? Ok Donald Trump.
LoPo
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Just quoting somebody else from this forum who came up with that appropriate name. Can't remember who to give credit to...
Mike Conley is the perfect offensive fit next to Mitchell.
It's a match made in heaven. Defensively it lags because Mitchell doesnt hold his own, but offensively it more than makes up for it.
It's a match made in heaven. Defensively it lags because Mitchell doesnt hold his own, but offensively it more than makes up for it.
You can only get Lopo's kind of stupid from Alabama
LoPo
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Yep. Always Don's fault.
You do realize we have a better regular season and postseason record when Mike Conley doesn't play right? I wish we had a bigger sample size but it's kind of hard when the guy misses so many games.
But hey, I'm sure that's Don's fault too.
LoPo
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I don't know if it's funny or sad that you have to make what you believe are insults that are supposed to help in your void of valid arguments.
And Alabama is a beautiful place with great people. Ignorance is so ugly.
So just to be clear, you are suggesting the Jazz are actually better without Conley?
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That's an incomplete question. But here is how I answer:
1. Better without Conley with nothing in return? No. For long term regular season success and depth, we need as many good players as we can get.
2. Better without Conley in the playoffs? Our record is actually better without him. But still, I would rather have him than not have him or anything in his place. Teams need as many good players as possible.
3. Better without Conley because we get something else for him? Absolutely. If we had Jrue instead of Mike, we are light years better. Hell, if we had the assets and money he took the last two years, we could have had Crowder plus a few more players to support Don and Rudy. Instead, we just got Mike who we really didn't have for half of our playoff games.