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The entire point of this is to win and you just pissed away any shot of winning along with making Thee a top-2 team.
You mean Domino making his team look like an actual team? News flash. My team was already stacked. Domino improved his team with two top end stars. Barkley is a top 3-4 player at his position that would’ve probably won a title if not for Jordan, and yes, he was championship caliber. And Allen is probably a top 3 shooter of all time, both first ballot HOF’ers.
 
Rasheed Wallace-I’m drunk as fugg but he’s the only player ever iirc to have 1,000 blocks, 1,000 3’s, 5,000 rebounds or some ****. Point is, dude could do it all and brought nasty too. None of this Jazz choir boy ********. Dude didn’t back down from anyone and brought it.
Michael Cooper-DPOY-could guard three or four positions and oh yeah, could run the point some on those awesome Lakers teams and hit the 3. One year he hit it at about 37% on 2.5 attempts iirc.
 
Me and @Thee Idiotic Minivan K have completed trade
I give: Tim Duncan, pick 114

He gives: Charles Barkley, Ray Allen

@Thee Idiotic Minivan K please confirm

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VETOED!!!!!!!!

I need three other people to veto this for it to pass. Otherwise it remains a trade. Ppl have 24 hours to veto this. Lemme know.

Also it just seems shady as fugg since it’s Thee and his nephew.
 
VETOED!!!!!!!!

I need three other people to veto this for it to pass. Otherwise it remains a trade. Ppl have 24 hours to veto this. Lemme know.

Also it just seems shady as fugg since it’s Thee and his nephew.

I vote to veto it as well.
 
VETOED!!!!!!!!

I need three other people to veto this for it to pass. Otherwise it remains a trade. Ppl have 24 hours to veto this. Lemme know.

Also it just seems shady as fugg since it’s Thee and his nephew.
Veto. I don’t know that there is anything shady here but it’s just brutally lopsided if nothing else.

I offered a package that was maybe more laughable on the surface, but:
1 - I think my trade would’ve made his team better than this one (although I am biased to my vision and my players who I feel great about)
2 - I don’t think I would’ve been offended by a veto.
 
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I really don't care if it gets vetoed because Duncan is a really good player I just don't see how I'm the one getting robbed here

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As Wes stated he is drink and doesn't have his best judgement at the moment let's wait until the morning when he can properly judge and decide to veto the trade

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Well now that I think about it this trade may not be the best for my overall team but it sure helps my starting lineup a lot

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We are vetoing this but not the Jordan trade?

Lol what???

Let’s break down both trades based on where they were drafted.

1, 108, 109, 112 for 7, 27, 51, 82

vs

16, 114 for 35, 52

You tell me which one would happen pre-draft and which one wouldn’t.

No one in their right mind would trade down from 16 to 35 to get 52 instead of 114.

There are already three votes to veto.
 
I really don't care if it gets vetoed because Duncan is a really good player I just don't see how I'm the one getting robbed here

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You traded a surefire top-10 player ever for:

A stat-padder that doesn’t play defense, doesn’t make his teammates better, offers no positional versatility, and only “spaces” the floor insofar as another team is scared of him shooting the worst shot in basketball. There’s a reason he fell to where he did.

Ray Allen is a spectacular shooter but also a poor defender. He doesn’t offer a ton else (decent passer, not a great creator, no positional versatility, not a rebounder). He is an absolutely useful and worthy player in a contest like this where we have to figure out how stars can all play together (I was considering him with my 3rd pick, so don’t get me wrong on how important the strength of his specialty is).
 
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