Jazz Preparing Conley Offer in Range of 75/3

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Jazz have to pay market for Conley, or he can just go to New York or Dallas.

Jazz also think they have a 3-year window to contend with a core of Mitchell/Conley/Gobert. So I get the 3 years. They drafted Butler so they can load manage Conley. Butler should be their cost-controlled George Hill-type.

 

[oneye]

Chicago can't actually offer a max deal so it may have been as much as they could offer... Some of these teams will miss on their targets and a Mike overpay was likely going to happen. Lock him in... don't jerk him around and find a good solution for both parties is the smart move. Backend of the deal likely is no bueno but guys are playing longer nowadays.

To do so they would have had to waive one or two of their non-guaranteed, Tony just mentioned they were looming and the main ones driving the price up. He didn't say the exact figure though.

 

[oneye]

Jazz have to pay market for Conley, or he can just go to New York or Dallas.

Jazz also think they have a 3-year window to contend with a core of Mitchell/Conley/Gobert. So I get the 3 years. They drafted Butler so they can load manage Conley. Butler should be their cost-controlled George Hill-type.

I can't lie, Mike in Dallas with Luka, would make life on Luka a lot easier, and I think they'd gladly take him for $25 mill.

 

[LoPo]

Based off the Favors trade, does our FO flip out if Conley bails on us or do they take some comfort knowing we avoided the luxury.

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[KqWIN]

Yeah I did too... We are fine. We may just want to reset the clock next year.

My thoughts are that we should give Conley a 2 year deal, Ingles extended one more year, then those two and Bogey expire at the same time so we can get out of the tax game before the repeater. I haven't looked at the logistics but I think it will be hard to duck the tax with Conley in the interim.

 

[campaignist]

Terrible. I don't see this roster as a title contender, so I think this is an overpay, but if they think it's a contender then I guess it makes sense.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

My thoughts are that we should give Conley a 2 year deal, Ingles extended one more year, then those two and Bogey expire at the same time so we can get out of the tax game before the repeater. I haven't looked at the logistics but I think it will be hard to duck the tax with Conley in the interim.

Depends on the rising cap. We are like maybe 5-6m away with Mike. If Butler looks solid you can likely move on from JC for some lower salary. You also might be moving on from Bogey for lower salary... its doable without gutting the roster.

 

[Avery]

Doesn't help that this is a poor FA crop overall - especially at the areas we need it.

 

[Coach Ellis]

I love Mike, but that’s a lot of money to tie up during Donovan’s prime. DL screwed the pooch, and now we have to pay the price.

DL went “all in” in a lazy *** way last year and it has screwed this team hard. Smith should’ve “promoted” him last year, added DWade in the offseason and promoted JZ sooner. Bet we’d be in a much different place right now.

 

[Eminence]

Healthy in the playoffs and it's all good. If not, well then any number wasn't good enough.

 

[LogGrad98]

This is a perfectly acceptable move in which we will have our full team for 2/3 of the year and maybe for a few games of the playoffs before we exit in the 2nd round.

Overpay to keep butts in the seats without taking the risks necessary to win the championship.

It is the (Jazz) way.

We are going the be the most fun winningest team to watch...in the regular season.

But we'll win a lot of games and sell a lot of tickets.

But hey it is market value. I'm so glad it's his market value. Boy it's a great thing it's his market value. Of course it's a terrible move tying up all our money to pay him his wonderful market value when we just drafted another small PG clone and will not have any flexibility to address our real problems.

But dat market value doe.

 

[LogGrad98]

Healthy in the playoffs and it's all good. If not, well then any number wasn't good enough.

Hasn't happened yet in his career. But you know, aging vets with known chronic injury issues always have a health resurgence as they get older, right? Right?

 

[LoPo]

Has anybody done any in depth statistical breakdown of...

Regular season games with Conley vs Regular season games without Conley

Postseason games with Conley vs Postseason games without Conley

Elimination Series games (Denver and Clippers only) with Conley vs ESG without Conley

I would love to see our offensive and defensive numbers in all that.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Jazz better manage the **** out of Conley's hamstrings. Thank god we got Butler.

 

[oneye]

This is a perfectly acceptable move in which we will have our full team for 2/3 of the year and maybe for a few games of the playoffs before we exit in the 2nd round.

Overpay to keep butts in the seats without taking the risks necessary to win the championship.

It is the (Jazz) way.

We are going the be the most fun winningest team to watch...in the regular season.

But we'll win a lot of games and sell a lot of tickets.

But hey it is market value. I'm so glad it's his market value. Boy it's a great thing it's his market value. Of course it's a terrible move tying up all our money to pay him his wonderful market value when we just drafted another small PG clone and will not have any flexibility to address our real problems.

But dat market value doe.

Propose what is better. Go ahead.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Conley will be perfectly tradeable a year from now if he's maintaining this level of production. This isnt an albatross deal in the slightest. It might be an overpay in the 3rd year, but I think he will uphold his value for these next two years.

 

[oneye]

Tony just said on radio that he's hearing a 2 year contract for Mike not a 3 year contract. I very much hope Tony is correct. He said the $25 million a year figure is correct, and he's very confident Mike is back.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Conley will be perfectly tradeable a year from now if he's maintaining this level of production. This isnt an albatross deal in the slightest. It might be an overpay in the 3rd year, but I think he will uphold his value for these next two years.

I hope so.
I’m still of the mind that the Jazz should try to consolidate contracts/assets and get a third star closer to Rudy and Don’s timeline. If keeping Conley gets us closer to that, then it’s a no brainer.

 

[oneye]

I hope so.
I’m still of the mind that the Jazz should try to consolidate contracts/assets and get a third star closer to Rudy and Don’s timeline. If keeping Conley gets us closer to that, then it’s a no brainer.

The problem is Rudy's timeline is now, and Donovans is 2 through 5 years from now.

 

[KqWIN]

The problem is Rudy's timeline is now, and Donovans is 2 through 5 years from now.

The only timeline for Donovan with the Jazz is the next 2 seasons. After that he's probably demanding out anyways.