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Game Thread Oct 26, 2021 08:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Nuggets

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It's crazy to think Bogdanovic only has one less blocked shots this year than he did the ENTIRE 18-19 season with the Pacers. AND we have only played three games! He has really picked his game up.
 
Hearsky said:
It's crazy to think Bogdanovic only has one less blocked shots this year than he did the ENTIRE 18-19 season with the Pacers. AND we have only played three games! He has really picked his game up.
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He was looking like BBQ chicken against Aaron Gordon.
 
Hearsky said:
It's crazy to think Bogdanovic only has one less blocked shots this year than he did the ENTIRE 18-19 season with the Pacers. AND we have only played three games! He has really picked his game up.
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He was awful last night… lots of mistakes… Gordon gave it to him harder than I gave it to your moms.
 
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Agent#00 said:
Maybe insert Rudy Gay in the starting lineup?
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Ingles or Gay should start over Royce to put more size in the lineup. Conley, Mitchell and Royce together is not enough size, and his defense does not come close to making up for his inconsistent offense.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
He was awful last night… lots of mistakes… Gordon gave it to him harder than I gave it to your moms.
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We gotta think about trade scenarios for him at this point. We are paying nearly 19mil for his shooting and he's 31% from deep so far this season, bricking two wide open looks in crunch time last night. He had the excuse for recovering from a wrist surgery last year but shouldn't he have fully recovered by now? Bojan is a good player but simply a luxury we cannot afford. He's due 20mil next season and we should spend that money on areas that we need to improve.
 
jom2003 said:
We gotta think about trade scenarios for him at this point. We are paying nearly 19mil for his shooting and he's 31% from deep so far this season, bricking two wide open looks in crunch time last night. He had the excuse for recovering from a wrist surgery last year but shouldn't he have fully recovered by now? Bojan is a good player but simply a luxury we cannot afford. He's due 20mil next season and we should spend that money on areas that we need to improve.
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I only trade him in season if something super awesome comes along. If Paschall shows he is solid and Gay ends up being good for us then you can move him in the offseason for something different. His shooting will come around... the offense is fine from him. Just needs to be better on defense (he can do it... he picked it up for the playoffs at times).

The problem with trading him is the thing we need is a different version of Bogey. Don't need guards... don't need bigs... need a good two way wing that can shoot. Rarely do you trade wing for better wing. I just think we will have some options once Gay is back and if Bojan can't/won't focus on both sides of the ball then he can sit a few extra minutes a game including crunch time. We can manage minutes well so everyone should be going balls to the walls.
 
LogGrad98 said:
The thing is Gobert has shown he can be a streaky free throw shooter, so this isn't really a great strategy.
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I remember a team doing hack a rudy a few years back and he made them pay big time. Made like 8 in row and they stopped that strategy.


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People that want to trade Bojan are forgetting what things look like when Donovan is injured. Think of Bojan as a really good player who is also Mitchell insurance. If we run into bad matchups for Bojan, we have Rudy Gay in the near future to even that out.
 
framer said:
People that want to trade Bojan are forgetting what things look like when Donovan is injured. Think of Bojan as a really good player who is also Mitchell insurance. If we run into bad matchups for Bojan, we have Rudy Gay in the near future to even that out.
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Once his shooting comes around he's great. His two point stuff has been great this year. Low turnover too. The defense last night was rough but Gordon was kind of giving it to everyone... it was weird. The dumb defensive rotation that got him pulled is the stuff he needs to eliminate. We have options... I doubt we find anything in a trade that would give us more than Bogey this year and next. If Joe was going to stick around next year at a somewhat reduced price I would look harder at a Bogey trade. Bogey isn't untouchable but it would be difficult to find something better.
 
I do think the defense is looking better from our small guards... JC, Don and Mike (who was always solid when healthy). I also see us going for steals more which is a big improvement. The bench defenders in Whiteside and Paschall are much improved over Niang and Favs... although Niang is under-rated as a regular season defender. If he had Whiteside behind him maybe it would have been better.
 
I said we should have been looking to move Bogey all summer. He's a good player, but still overrated IMO and we have much greater needs than another scorer. His reputation and trade value exceeds his actual production and on court value more than any of the tradeable guys. Almost all of his value comes from scoring, and that is what is most overrated by the general consensus. It's also what we have an extreme surplus of on this team. The advanced numbers have never been kind to Bogey and I have to agree with them.

I think a lot of the Ingles rumors stem from the fact that his contract is up and the Jazz might not want to bite the bullet and pay the tax. IMO, Ingles is a better player than Bogey and I don't want to lose him because we chose Bogey instead. If we can't get that two for one trade for a better player I would still like to trade Bogey for a different kind of player.
 
KqWIN said:
I said we should have been looking to move Bogey all summer. He's a good player, but still overrated IMO and we have much greater needs than another scorer. His reputation and trade value exceeds his actual production and on court value more than any of the tradeable guys. Almost all of his value comes from scoring, and that is what is most overrated by the general consensus. It's also what we have an extreme surplus of on this team. The advanced numbers have never been kind to Bogey and I have to agree with them.

I think a lot of the Ingles rumors stem from the fact that his contract is up and the Jazz might not want to bite the bullet and pay the tax. IMO, Ingles is a better player than Bogey and I don't want to lose him because we chose Bogey instead. If we can't get that two for one trade for a better player I would still like to trade Bogey for a different kind of player.
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The Joe stuff basically comes from Joe. He isn't looking to relocate in the NBA... he wants to go home. If he plays in the NBA next year I am basically 100% certain it will be for us.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The Joe stuff basically comes from Joe. He isn't looking to relocate in the NBA... he wants to go home. If he plays in the NBA next year I am basically 100% certain it will be for us.
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Either way, regardless of what Joe's plans are I think we should have been looking to move Bogey...especially now that we have Gay, Paschall, and Butler.
 
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