Red
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Whatever. You’re always free, as we all are, to respond to such an article any way you please. As to “what it is”, I’ve always found it to skew conservative somewhat. Here it is on the media bias chart….
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I always wonder how accurate this is. Seen it a few times before. Also is it regularly updated or was this a snapshot in time.
Looks like I'm getting my news from good sources though. My primary news source is NPR, listen nearly every day on my way to and from work. Get most written news from AP/Reuters when I'm looking for a story on something. Otherwise get some from the main tv networks on their web sites. The only major publication i subscribe to is the economist. And I read/listen to BBC online and Spiegel and ITB Berlin (German News sources) to get a more international perspective on US news.
But all these other ones are on an ad hoc Basis when I'm looking for something. For just mainstream news it's primarily NPR for me.
Red
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Someone here, forget who, posted the media bias chart a few years ago. I saved this page, but it has not been updated since 2017, by the looks of it. It’s the source I used for the chart I posted. I like NPR, BBC, The Guardian, AP, but I’m biased enough to subscribe to the Washington Post, kind of a direct effect of the Trump era. Actually, looks like the Post is not as Left as I perceived. It actually was/is just very anti-Trump….
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Did they unionize?
I actually knew a woman who was a fluffer. That's probably a job that doesn't exist anymore, thanks to Viagra.
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Al-O-Meter
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I don't disagree that The Hill skews somewhat conservative, but this isn't a The Hill article. It wasn't written by a The Hill writer. Where The Hill lands on a media bias chart is completely irrelevant to this piece. It is no different than showing where the NY Times lands on a media bias chart to infer something about the Op-Ed written by Senator Tom Cotton last year.
The NY Times is a media outlet with known political bias. Tom Cotton is a US Senator with a known political bias. They are not the same thing. Tom Cotton publishing in the NY Times does not make Tom Cotton a left-leaning Senator, and the NY Times publishing Tom Cotton does not make them a right-leaning media outlet. They are separate entities and remained so even after that Op-Ed.
The Hill and the author of that piece are separate entities. That author is paid by the DNC to put out marketing to get their candidates elected. In this case, the marketing was published by The Hill in a way that made it look like an ordinary article. The Hill disavowed the piece in the header but published it just the same. The articles says many things that are wrong, and other things in a misleading way that give an impression opposite of reality. Debunking it is on the same level as debunking a GEICO commercial. Nearly everything from the existence of talking lizards to saving 15% on your car insurance in 15 minutes isn't true, but truth isn't the point of it. It wasn't put there to increase your understanding.
Red
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OK, point made. You can critique Cramer too if you wish. He was pretty effusive. Of course, I have not forgotten the time he was destroyed by Jon Stewart on The Daily Show. That was so embarrassing, I wondered if he would ever be able to show his face again. But, he did. As for my own grasp of economics, it’s similar to my grasp of quantum physics. Not great. But I assume Cramer does at least grasp economics better than myself, and he was effusive. But, OK, yes, the author is not The Hill.
Al-O-Meter
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With Cramer, he has his platform because he is effusive. It is entertainment. He’s not there because he’s some incredible sage. Cramer was equally effusive when famously telling people not to pull money out of Bear Sterns three days before they collapsed into insolvency. That didn’t cost him his platform because his platform isn’t about being correct. I’m not saying he’s always wrong but I would like to see some meat to back up whatever opinion he’s selling at the moment but on this one it seems to be effusive fluff all the way through, and I don’t give it the same weight that I do the concerning statistics on inflation.
Avery
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Cramer is the Stephen A. Smith of CNBC - listening to him is entertainment, but should not be taken as financial advice just like how you shouldn't listen to SAS for, well, anything.
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Interesting
Al-O-Meter
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Speaking of concerning statistics on inflation, the new numbers are the highest ever recorded in the US.
Wholesale prices measure rose 9.6% in November from a year ago, the fastest pace on record
The Labor Department's producer price index was expected to rise 9.2% in November from a year ago, according to FactSet.
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"I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, the freedom of choice. I'm the kind of guy who likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder - "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of BBQ ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol. I wanna eat bacon and butter and buskets of cheese, okay? I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section. I wanna run through the streets naked with green Jell-O all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to, okay, pal?"Interesting
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Avery
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It's pretty crazy for sure - milk is $3 a gallon right now. The supply chain issues coupled with the labor issues and raw materials for production is having a massive effect on us.Speaking of concerning statistics on inflation, the new numbers are the highest ever recorded in the US.
Wholesale prices measure rose 9.6% in November from a year ago, the fastest pace on record
The Labor Department's producer price index was expected to rise 9.2% in November from a year ago, according to FactSet.www.cnbc.com
We talk about the long-term Covid effects on people, but this is a stark example of how the long-term impacts of Covid hurt our economic health.
One thing's for sure, it's going to hurt the D's at the ballot box during mid-terms. It's not really their fault as inflation is not a winning issue, but that's what happens when you're the majority and things aren't falling like you want.
The Thriller
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What makes you think "for sure" this is going to hurt Democrats in the midterms, something a year away?
You understand the price of milk was higher just a few years ago, right? It was over $3.00 in 2020 and in 2008 was nearly $4.00 per gallon.
I keep hearing almost weekly things will "for sure" hurt Democrats but never anything about Republicans. Why does Afghanistan, CRT, and milk increasing a few dimes mean so much and literally nothing the GOP does matter?
One last thing, does our democracy seriously mean so little to the citizens of this country? Shouldn't our form of government, free elections, the constitutions, our rights, etc matter more than getting milk a few dimes cheaper? Or do all of these ideals we supposedly have mean jack squat? And if so, what a terrible indictment on the citizens of our country. If you've ever asked how citizens ever let an authoritarian from the past come to power, I guess we now know how. Sacrifice all of your ideals, ethics, and principles for a few pieces of silver.
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Al-O-Meter
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I think you are going a bit light on the D's. COVID didn't hurt our economic health. The government's reaction to COVID hurt our economic health. This pandemic hit everywhere and no nation on Earth is seeing the level of inflation we are. Our government made decisions. Those decisions had consequences. The party in power should be held responsible at the ballot box for the consequences of the decisions they presided over. I only wish politicians were held to account more often. All too often it seems the only thing that matters is how good a politician is at raising funds to finance their next election.
Avery
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Mid-terms are never usually favorable to the ruling party - I don't expect 2022 to be any different.
In terms of milk, remember the mind of the electorate: what have you done for me lately? Most people won't remember what they paid for milk a few years ago, only what they did recently. That's how the mind of many voters will function.
I'd also wager that most people have moved on from Afghanistan and CRT - again, they'll concern themselves with what's going on next November more so than the news bites right now and it's difficult to project what our news cycle will look like a year out.
Also, keep in mind that even if the electoral mindset may not shift as much, the gerrymandering that we're witnessing favors R's retaking the house simply through shrewd use of drawing lines.
Al-O-Meter
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Historical precedent. If you think the Democrats won't get hurt in the midterms, I'm up for a wager on it. I'll even give you odds.
Avery
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Not to go on a tangent, and they can't force him to do so, but having an 83 year-old Stephen Breyer on the SC while having the advantage to move his nomination through the Senate and retain a progressive voice for another 30 years may be a massive miscalculation if nothing happens prior to next year.
The Thriller
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@Avery
A pretty sorry indictment on the citizens of our country.
But if citizens truly only cares about “getting stuff”, why wouldn’t the Covid relief packages, the infrastructure packages, and the overall competent governance figure into things? If citizens actually paid attention to stuff they got from the government, can’t they judge the Biden bucks and bridges vs the Trump tax cuts for the rich and come to their own conclusions?
I believe they should be. We aren't in normal times. We're recovering from a once a century pandemic and arguably our greatest authoritarian threat ever. Has there ever been a party like today's GOP that has waged a war on the country like this?
"Our democracy might be destroyed by Republican authoritarianism but at least milk will be cheaper..."
A pretty sorry indictment on the citizens of our country.
But if citizens truly only cares about “getting stuff”, why wouldn’t the Covid relief packages, the infrastructure packages, and the overall competent governance figure into things? If citizens actually paid attention to stuff they got from the government, can’t they judge the Biden bucks and bridges vs the Trump tax cuts for the rich and come to their own conclusions?
So if milk is this month's flavor, why won't inflation concerns evaporate in the next few months too?
If this is the case, do any of these issues even matter? Why talk about inflation or the price if milk if gerrymandering and voter suppression have already decided things?
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The Thriller
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You don't think Democrats haven't considered this?
What should they do to get rid of him? Will Republicans join Democrats to impeach and remove Breyer over something?
The only person who can decide whether Breyer retires or stays on is... Well Breyer. Direct anger towards him accordingly, not at Democrats.
The Thriller
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My issue isn't so much that they're going to lose seats. I believe gerrymandering and voter suppression laws have already taken care of that. My issue is people that small and petty issues like CRT and inflation warrant empowering an Authoritarian Republican cult. If America is supposed to be the shining city on a hill to inspire all other nations to aspire, then maybe it shouldn't sacrifice its democratic ideals for a few gallons of milk.
If cheap milk is enough to overthrow our democracy and empower a dictator, then what a sad indictment on America's citizens and its democratic ideals. Perhaps we never were very exceptional after all?
Just curious, @Gameface is this what you served our country for? When you joined the navy, did you think about our nation’s ideals and take pride in them? Or was our nation merely a vehicle for cheap milk? And if you could get cheaper milk by serving a dictator, would you have done it? Would you have sacrificed our democracy, permanently damaging free and fair elections, for some “free/cheaper stuff”, would you have done it?
Aren’t we supposed to have higher ideals than merely this tunnel vision of our immediate needs? Are we all just so petty and narcissistic?
Germany sacrificed its democracy after millions were lost in a war, inflation reached hyperinflation levels, and unemployment blew up past 30 percent. We apparently are willing to throw our democracy away over unemployment rates that range between 3-5 percent, near record highs in stock market, and milk that costs $0.25 more than last year but still cheaper than 2014 and 2008 milk.
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