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The *OFFICIAL* Russia Is About To Invade Ukraine Thread

Gameface said:
The saga of Forest Gump continues.

babe was everywhere. He has claimed to have direct ties to the British royal family, direct ties to LDS church leadership, studied MJ in college as like a chemistry major or whatnot, now he was in the Philippines and had UN informants. Is up in the mountains with his cows seeing shady aircraft activities and such. The guy actually makes Forest Gump seem like he had a boring life.
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You really lack either skill or enthusiasm for embellishing stories like mine.

Call be something better than "Forrest Gump". I have a friend named "Forrest", but that's not me. I'm better than that. A true Boomer, maybe even a Narcissist. Just not really a great sociopath. I have studied the philosophy of cows for almost all my life. I think human progress is scalable, and can be measured by comparison with cows. When we finally MASTER THE ART OF BEING CONTENT TO CHEW OUR CUD INSTEAD OF TEACH PROPAGANDA, we will be on the true path.

You forgot to mention that I was blind and paralyzed, and live in the world of my imagination.

I think every Bristish citizen must be descended from one English king or another, most likely more than one, and probably several if not all. The math is overwhelming. Every European is likely descended from Charlemagne, and Joan of Arc too. The English tale of the Holy Grail, the veryfsacramental chalice used by Jesus for the sacrament he blessed and shared with the Twelve Apostles, in foundational to the idea of British Imperialism. Every Anglophile believes they are descended from Jesus and have the natural right to rule the world. Pretty sure this idea is commonplace in The City of London.

That makes every conspiracy theory practically the Gospel of Jesus.

You, on the other hand, believe in nothing but Marx or whoever whereever you get your principles that you share with Obama, Hillary, and Joe Biden. Fabian Socialism or Machiavelli. I am related to the local founder of the Committee on Foreign Relations, a one-time Ambassador to Spain named Sam, and to and probably to the principal attorney of more than one Salt Lake law firm. Even Ed Fiimage, the man who saved the West Desert from becoming a hodge podge of missile silos making Utah the number one nuclear target on the globe. And yes, when in the Philippines I had some days with the The Huks, and a communist cell in Manila as well. I also personally met Corazon Aquino and Ninoy Aquino long before they were national figures, was a friend of the family. And some of the top dogs in the Marcos Administration including an official in the UN, whom I kept up a correspondence with across more than three decades.

I believe you make good yogurt and beer. Keep it up. But when it comes to having fun, learn a little art from me.

Truth is pretty hard to swallow whole without some good flavors.
 
The Thriller said:
Putin sure is a great guy

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Zelensky so far as I know is a non-politician, a popular TV personality with I think a sense of humor in Ukraine, totally non=political. He was elected because of his anti-corruption views and promises.

Joe Biden threatened to deny $1B in Congress-stipulated aid unless the investigation into Hunter's gas company's corrupt activities was stopped. Hunter also took a bunch of cash from Russian, and Biden gave Russia the go-head/ removed the sanctions Trump has put in place,to enable Putin's gas company to build their pipeline. Trump would have helped Zelensky any way he could to get the corrption investigated and prosecuted.

Anyone who is still spewing the Soros campaign to create conflict with Ukraine and Russia has lost their freakin' mind.

Biden is responsible for the recent disturbances because he's weak and corrupt and compromised, and Putin is taking advantage of that, while others are pushing for more conflict. But even Biden is advocating that Zelensky appease Russia. This might be all aimed at removing Zelensky and re-installing the fascist forces in Ukrainian politics, and maybe provide some more reasons to buy more military hardware and pass it around. We have a lot of great militarists who just flove the idea of more wars, like Liz Cheney.

In this thread, and in the thread I started, I simply say Putin is Russia's "Hillary". Bad enough, but probably not as bad as Xi and a lot of less significant tyrants. Zelensky has his hands full wirth people in his government who want to stir up trouble for him, for their own gain.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
Trump isn't the US President. If Putin is sensing an opportunity stemming from American weakness, his gaze is likely centered on a figure a bit higher and more current. That said, I think you are completely wrong in believing Putin is going to take over Ukraine. As I said earlier, there is an outside chance he takes a chunk of borderlands where there are a large population of ethnic Russians, but 80% of Ukraine is not ethnically Russian. Putin is very aware that Russia is not strong enough to quell that many Ukrainians. Putin isn't a moron. He knows if he did that the boys at the CIA would be jumping for joy as they figured out how to get weapons to Ukrainian freedom fighters. Russia isn't going to take Ukraine because it would be the end of Russia.
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Why is taking 20% okay?
 
babe said:
Zelensky so far as I know is a non-politician, a popular TV personality with I think a sense of humor in Ukraine, totally non=political. He was elected because of his anti-corruption views and promises.
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"I make car parts for the American working man because that's what I am."
 
Red said:
www.cnn.com

First on CNN: US intelligence indicates Russia preparing operation to justify invasion of Ukraine

The US has information that indicates Russia has prepositioned a group of operatives to conduct a false-flag operation in eastern Ukraine, a US official told CNN on Friday, in an attempt to create a pretext for an invasion.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
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This is a joke, right?

Simplistic notions of world news might not be all that funny.

We will run the fake false flag unit for the Russians, blaring the news "Russia did it. It's part of the idea of messing up America like the open borders and cash for commies budgets. Then we will let Russia kick our *** while the Ukraine government bawls for help, which will all go into the corrupt pockets of Ukrainian politicos who always were Russian vassals. Russia will get the Donetsk while Biden winks and nods. Oh maybe we will only lose a bunch of cutting edge military technology to Russia, and a thousand of our patriots. But it will weaken our national will and maybe China will annex Formosa, which was not Chinese in the first place.

But hey, it's all good for business.
 
babe said:
This is a joke, right?
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Not on my part. And I think Fiona Hill is way smarter than you. Or me…

www.barrons.com

Commentary: Vladimir Putin Senses Weakness

Fiona Hill, a leading expert on Russia, says it's no 'accident that Putin has decided to act against the backdrop of Biden grappling with his own party.'
www.barrons.com www.barrons.com

www.nytimes.com

Opinion | Putin Has the U.S. Right Where He Wants It

Vladimir Putin’s aim is bigger than closing NATO’s “open door” to Ukraine and taking more territory.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 
Red said:
Not on my part. And I think Fiona Hill is way smarter than you. Or me…

www.barrons.com

Commentary: Vladimir Putin Senses Weakness

Fiona Hill, a leading expert on Russia, says it's no 'accident that Putin has decided to act against the backdrop of Biden grappling with his own party.'
www.barrons.com www.barrons.com

www.nytimes.com

Opinion | Putin Has the U.S. Right Where He Wants It

Vladimir Putin’s aim is bigger than closing NATO’s “open door” to Ukraine and taking more territory.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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Fiona Hill might be smart, but she is dishonest.

While I can't say I know Putin or his mind, I believe on my own information that Putin meant what he said when the Soros bunch took over Ukraine. He considered that western-based fascist activist bunch to be a threat to Russia, and the takeover with talk of bringing Ukraine into NATO to be a breach of agreements with the START treaty wherein Russia agreed to withdraw the nukes from Ukraine, on terms. The explicit terms Putin agreed to was that the West/NATO would not gain Ukraine as a NATO or western team member. We agreed with that then. We lied.

Putin called us out condemning the UN system as being not a new world order or "New Law" or a system of world governance with orderly negotiations and settlements, but a kind of "NO LAW" wherein the western interests essentially had the character of thugs you should not trust in any way.

By breaching our commitments, we essentially declared war on Russia.

It is my guess that Biden/the Biden group/ understand his point and will make some adjustments he is asking for.
 
Excellent reading:

So all this Russian propaganda is untrue, but even if any of it were true, it would not justify invasions and threatened invasions. Is it meant to serve ideology or strategy? What we know for sure is that Russia’s leaders, whatever the ideology or strategy might be, believe in psychology. The one consistent element of Russian propaganda is that Russia has suffered and that it is the West’s fault — your fault. When Russia does something inexcusable, you are meant to be shocked, blame yourself and make concessions.
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Shock and guilt will not lead to peace. Security cannot be gained by chasing myths into a netherworld where Russians are always innocent, Ukrainians do not exist and Americans should take the blame for it all. If Russia gets what it wants by behaving badly and programming others to take the blame, expect more of the same in years to come.
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Sad how Tucker and much of the american right wing side with Putin here and blame America for Russia’s aggression.

 
Keefe said:
So did they invade?
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Even the Ukrainian Prez is trying to tell Biden to STFU and stop making him ground zero for his political problem at home. Like Clinton bombing the aspirin factory in Timbuktu or wherever, and Bush/Albright suckering Iraq to take the Persian Gulf mudflat ten square mile oil well, just to strut some imagined "stuff", killing hundreds of thousands of humans, paying for trillions of much needed military stuff to save the military industries who paid his campaign bills.

Who cares about American lives lost or American taxpayers anyway?

Biden, and the general CFR crew and Liz are war mongers.
 
babe said:
Even the Ukrainian Prez is trying to tell Biden to STFU and stop making him ground zero for his political problem at home. Like Clinton bombing the aspirin factory in Timbuktu or wherever, and Bush/Albright suckering Iraq to take the Persian Gulf mudflat ten square mile oil well, just to strut some imagined "stuff", killing hundreds of thousands of humans, paying for trillions of much needed military stuff to save the military industries who paid his campaign bills.

Who cares about American lives lost or American taxpayers anyway?

Biden, and the general CFR crew and Liz are war mongers.
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If you remove "CFR", I agree completely.
 
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