Trade deadline discussion

[Gameface]

What did we even get for Korver? I liked him on the team the second time.

 

[Gameface]

2009-10 season he set the record for 3PT% in a season at 53.6%. This record still stands to this day.

Anyways, last game of the season that year we were 53-28 and the Suns were 53-28. Win and we win the division and get the 3 seed. Lose and we lose the division and get the 5 seed. Which for obvious reasons was extremely important and the biggest game of the year.

Korver passed up multiple good looks that game and the game before from 3 to keep his percentage high to secure the record. The final two games that season he played over 41 minutes and took 1 total three.

We end up losing the game to Phoenix and get the 5 seed and end up losing to the Lakers in the second round.

That was his first stint here. Something else happened either during or after his second stint.

 

[campaignist]

If Joe gets traded can he just retire right then? I'm not sure how that works. I just don't see him moving his family to another state for just a couple of months.

From what I can tell and could find, he could retire and not report; he would then forfeit his contract and not be able to play for another team for one year. I have to imagine the
team he'd be going to would get a commitment to play (or to retire if it's a salary dump) from him before finalizing the trade.

 

[slc]

Player does not have to move family
Joes family can just stay in Utah till he decides what to do

 

[Jingled]

From what I can tell and could find, he could retire and not report; he would then forfeit his contract and not be able to play for another team for one year. I have to imagine the
team he'd be going to would get a commitment to play (or to retire if it's a salary dump) from him before finalizing the trade.

I'm pretty would just retire and not report then.

 

[homeytennis]

What did we even get for Korver? I liked him on the team the second time.

He was included in the Conley trade for salary match purposes. I had the feeling he felt lied to by the Jazz and I don't know if that was DL, Quin, the Miller family or all of the above or some of the above.

 

[Jingled]

2009-10 season he set the record for 3PT% in a season at 53.6%. This record still stands to this day.

Anyways, last game of the season that year we were 53-28 and the Suns were 53-28. Win and we win the division and get the 3 seed. Lose and we lose the division and get the 5 seed. Which for obvious reasons was extremely important and the biggest game of the year.

Korver passed up multiple good looks that game and the game before from 3 to keep his percentage high to secure the record. The final two games that season he played over 41 minutes and took 1 total three.

We end up losing the game to Phoenix and get the 5 seed and end up losing to the Lakers in the second round.

I know all that but I'm wondering what happened between him and the front office in his second stint with the Jazz to cause bad blood.

 

[hgb]

Player does not have to move family
Joes family can just stay in Utah till he decides what to do

He would have to leave Renae with two young kids including one with autism? Not sure that's where Joe wants to go. (I'm sure they have help, but still...)

 

[homeytennis]

He would have to leave Renae with two young kids including one with autism? Not sure that's where Joe wants to go. (I'm sure they have help, but still...)

Trading Joe now would be like shooting Old Yeller.

 

[infection]

There was some real bad blood between Korver and the front office and coaching staff his last time through here. He was available but he had had it with the Jazz. No way was he coming here.

I mean strictly speaking of rules. If Joe were traded to a team and bought out, we couldn’t sign him. If he were traded to a team who then traded him again and was bought out, he could be signed. Korver was the example as a policy possibility.

Matt Harpring you mean.

No, Harpring was traded to OKC who waived him. Korver was traded to Memphis, who then traded him to Phoenix, who then waived him.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

We need more royce oneals!!!

He was awesome again last night. 1-4 from the field for 3 points and a negative 21 for the game. Plus he pretty much shut down the mavs offense as they only scored 116 because they had a star studded team.

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I want to keep Royce O'Neale. I just want to reduce some of his minutes. We act like he's Draymond Green sometimes, and he isn't close. There are a dozen or so players who could do what Royce does for the Jazz.

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

I want to keep Royce O'Neale. I just want to reduce some of his minutes. We act like he's Draymond Green sometimes, and he isn't close. There are a dozen or so players who could do what Royce does for the Jazz.

I think we just stand pat, cut Oni and poach one of these hardship swing guys that has distinguished himself in replacement play. Stanley Johnson is a guy that could bring some value I believe.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I think we just stand pat, cut Oni and poach one of these hardship swing guys that has distinguished himself in replacement play. Stanley Johnson is a guy that could bring some value I believe.

I could see the Jazz trading Ingles' expiring deal and a conditional pick for Marcus Smart or Josh Richardson. I could also see the Jazz taking a swing at Christian Wood or Jerami Grant.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think we almost trade for a bunch of guys

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yuta has to be acquired

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

I could see the Jazz trading Ingles' expiring deal and a conditional pick for Marcus Smart or Josh Richardson. I could also see the Jazz taking a swing at Christian Wood or Jerami Grant.

I’d definitely be on board with that. I wonder if Ainge still has the Sorcerer’s hat to work that kind of magic?

 

[LoPo]

It's unpopular, but I would trade Conley. He's having a good year right now and is healthy so his value is high. In the playoffs, we will again have issues with Don, Mike and our lack of other good perimeter defenders.

Jerami Grant to Utah
Simmons to Detroit
Conley, Olynyk, and Detroit picks to Philly

Maybe we add Cory Joseph to the deal too if Detroit doesn't want him.



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[SoberasHotRod]

It's unpopular, but I would trade Conley. He's having a good year right now and is healthy so his value is high. In the playoffs, we will again have issues with Don, Mike and our lack of other good perimeter defenders.

Jerami Grant to Utah
Simmons to Detroit
Conley, Olynyk, and Detroit picks to Philly

Maybe we add Cory Joseph to the deal too if Detroit doesn't want him.



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This year we have won 0 games without Mike. Our offense without Mike has been very dependent on Mitchell heroics. Ingles has mostly looked old. Butler hasn't shown anything yet.

I really wish we could be less reliant of Conley at this point, but the fact is we can't let him go.

It's also worth mentioning that Conley has been our best perimeter defender this year.

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

This year we have won 0 games without Mike. Our offense without Mike has been very dependent on Mitchell heroics. Ingles has mostly looked old. Butler hasn't shown anything yet.

I really wish we could be less reliant of Conley at this point, but the fact is we can't let him go.

It's also worth mentioning that Conley has been our best perimeter defender this year.

Obviously you make a great point, I mean I was astounded when I looked at defensive ratings. But with load management and age and that trick hammy he will miss games. And when that happens we suffer. Maybe now is the time to get off him when his price is high.
I mean I’m fine with Grant but would prefer a Shai Gilgeous Alexander Lou Dort combination or something similar to fill the void left by Conley but with some size. Conley for Simmons works - we’d be a defensive juggernaut!

 

[SoberasHotRod]

My heart has opened up to the idea that maybe we should trade Ingles. I’m not settled or comfortable in this position, but I’ve worked myself into a space where I could accept this.

From the cold-hearted, 10,000-foot view, Ingles’ and Clarkson’s spots have to be considered the most obvious places for upgrades.

It's pretty crazy that we had 2 players that deserved the 6MOY award last year, and now both players have been so inconsistent this year.

I just looked it up and Jordan Clarkson had a pre-All Star break efg% of 55%. This year he is at 47%. We are basically living and dying by Jordan Clarkson making shots. He is 51% efg% in wins and 39% in losses.

Joe went from a 65% efg% last year to 58% efg% this year. Honestly his shooting last year probably wasn't sustainable. The bigger deal is his ast%, reb% , and usg% are all down this year. His PITP are also way down this year so far.

I think/hope one or both of them will turn it around at some point this year.