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How good or bad is Enes Kanter. Really.

Ok, so you do not know who Hollinger or Aldridge is? Fine, we do not need to argue about that then. Funny thing is you say JV can't do anything without passes from his teammates... See this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DkzWofJkZk and rethink what you said ( he has great pump fake, jump hook and gets to the free throw line as well vs one of the top 10 NBA center Kaman ). And JV is three times better passer then Kanter, do not even start on that.

Thing about pick and roll - Kanter is not good at setting screens and not good at understanding spacing and rolling to the basket, thats why you do not see pick and roll with Kanter. He is low post, isolation type player who has no pick and roll game. Kind of like big Al, but worse.
Jonas show 0% improvement since last season so what's your argument about that?
 
AKMVP: I've asked this before, but whether Kanter turns out to be a great pick or a bad pick, what's your purpose in coming to a Jazz site pimping Jonas and slamming Kanter ... when Kanter plays for 'our' team.

Go pimp him to 'his' team??

Eagerly awaiting a response.

PS I enjoy how you think that scoring a jump hook over Chris Kaman shows how skilled he is offensively. It's also funny how you rag on Kanter's lack of pick and roll skills, when Tunceri would just run past the screen and jack up the triple almost every single time. If you're gonna keep blindly pimping has-beens, or missed draft picks, and ragging on almost every single one of our roster members, then please leave this forum. I cannot think of any instance where you have shown support, or faith, in any Jazz player. Please quote a past post to show me otherwise.
 
If you're gonna keep blindly pimping has-beens, or missed draft picks, and ragging on almost every single one of our roster members, then please leave this forum. I cannot think of any instance where you have shown support, or faith, in any Jazz player. Please quote a past post to show me otherwise.

Well, then you obviously not reading all my posts. Critique of GM who screws every single first round pick pointing to better picks which could have been Jazz's seems like obvious thing to me. But if you can't look at our team without homer glasses it is not my problem. And why do you want me to leave? Truth hurts?
 
AKMVP: I've asked this before, but whether Kanter turns out to be a great pick or a bad pick, what's your purpose in coming to a Jazz site pimping Jonas and slamming Kanter ... when Kanter plays for 'our' team.

Go pimp him to 'his' team??

I already said - critique of O'Connor, showing that he screwed up by not drafting better player. And I said I will support Kanter and be happy if he proves me wrong.
 
Well, then you obviously not reading all my posts. Critique of GM who screws every single first round pick pointing to better picks which could have been Jazz's seems like obvious thing to me. But if you can't look at our team without homer glasses it is not my problem. And why do you want me to leave? Truth hurts?

So your whole schtik is to look at players, several years after a draft, and claim that you could have out-picked KOC?

Brilliant.
 
So your whole schtik is to look at players, several years after a draft, and claim that you could have out-picked KOC?

Brilliant.

You are missing the point of message boards. It is to be right and shove it in other poster's face and complain. Is this cool? Is this rational? Is this worthy of anyone's time? No on all accounts, but we are all posting on a message board so we can't really complain.
 
You are missing the point of message boards. It is to be right and shove it in other poster's face and complain. Is this cool? Is this rational? Is this worthy of anyone's time? No on all accounts, but we are all posting on a message board so we can't really complain.

No, no I'm not. The point of this message board is not to call KOC an idiot drafter because someone else proves, over time, to be better.

You know I'm right .. and I'm shoving that in your face. Don't complain.
 
Oh, and ...

Zips >>>>>>>>>>>> Bulldogs

Who are the Zips?

Also, I clearly think the Bulldogs are now the 2nd best team in the SEC. Watching Florida lately has me thinking they are a hot or not team that can't hang with anyone who plays good defense.
 
Who are the Zips?

Also, I clearly think the Bulldogs are now the 2nd best team in the SEC. Watching Florida lately has me thinking they are a hot or not team that can't hang with anyone who plays good defense.

The Akron Zips. Sorry, bad taste.

As for Mississip .. I'd put them tied with Florida, but do agree with the consistentcy being on their side. Florida has no gameplan, it seems, and lots of selfish play.
 
Obviously you have no clue what you are talking about so there is no need to respond.
Dude, i'm from France,i was at the game in Metz when Kanter score 37pts and grab 19rbs vs Jonas.
U mad?
In euroleague last year Jonas av 70% 2pts (thanks to Jasikevicius).
This year JV av 50% in weak competition like eurocup.
I see more progress in Mirotic game for exemple, clearly a better overall player.
Mirotic the best prospect this year in europe and almost number one offensive weapon of real madrid.
Bulls fans will enjoy this guy.
 
how can you compare enes with kosta koufos?
ridiculous!
their styles, tactical knowledge, talent levels... all different.
haven't you seen him dunkin over gasol? playin clutch minutes against kaman or noah?
you probably didn't...

and to the people who say he will be a bust, his corpse has more talent than the stupid centers like brandan wright etc...
nobody knows what he'll do, but he will not play rubbish basketball...
 
Obviously you have no clue what you are talking about so there is no need to respond.

Dude, i'm from France,i was at the game in Metz when Kanter score 37pts and grab 19rbs vs Jonas.
U mad?
In euroleague last year Jonas av 70% 2pts (thanks to Jasikevicius).
This year JV av 50% in weak competition like eurocup.
I see more progress in Mirotic game for exemple, clearly a better overall player.
Mirotic the best prospect this year in europe and almost number one offensive weapon of real madrid.
Bulls fans will enjoy this guy.

Hello Everybody

Here are some latest facts about all mighty Jonass V.;

Jonas and his team lost in qualifying rounds and could not qualify to euroleague this year.instead they are playing now in eurocup which is known as trashcup or leftovers cup,or losers cup

what is euro cup?

euroleague>eurochallenge>eurocup.(if you could build up a team with NBA-D league bench players,they would go all the way to finals every year)

22 mpg,9 ppg,7.5 rpg,1.5 TO,,2.5 fouls

is that good?

it would be OK,if he was playing in euroleague,

but his numbers must be good on something,right?

well,,lets see,,he is not in top 20 at ranking(main,total),,he is number 12 at totalt rebounds and he is number 9 in total blocks
 
Dude, i'm from France,i was at the game in Metz when Kanter score 37pts and grab 19rbs vs Jonas.
U mad?
In euroleague last year Jonas av 70% 2pts (thanks to Jasikevicius).
This year JV av 50% in weak competition like eurocup.
I see more progress in Mirotic game for exemple, clearly a better overall player.
Mirotic the best prospect this year in europe and almost number one offensive weapon of real madrid.
Bulls fans will enjoy this guy.

Dude, that game Kanter scored those points was 2.5 years ago, he was bigger and that time 40 lbs heavier then Jonas - obviously huge advantage at 17 years of age. Plus he played 37 min vs JV 21 min in blowout, so it would be more appropriate to say he scored it vs LT team, not vs JV. Plus if you were at that Euro U18 championship then why don't you talk about the other game between them where Turkey lost and Kanter scored 22 and JV scored 20? Now Jonas is taller and weight difference is only 15lbs, to bad we did not see them going head to head in Turkey vs LT this year, could be different story.

About FG%. You looking at Eurocup 4 games and and it is actually 53.8%... why don't you look at other leagues he plays? VTB league 75%, LKL - 75%. Wait until Eurocup tourney is over and there is more games played before declaring stupidity that it is Jasikevicius who is responsible for his high% last year. For your information Jasikevicius played only in 4 Euroleague games with JV and in one game he had 1 ast and in other JV scored 0pts in 4 min... Sure those two remaining games Jasikevicius boosted JV fg% to 70%... lol.
My friendly advice, stop being ridiculous - as again, I will repeat myself, you have no clue what you are talking about.
 
Here are some latest facts about all mighty Jonass V.;

Jonas and his team lost in qualifying rounds and could not qualify to euroleague this year.instead they are playing now in eurocup which is known as trashcup or leftovers cup,or losers cup

what is euro cup?

euroleague>eurochallenge>eurocup.

WRONG!

Aybars, please get your facts straight.

The EuroChallenge (called the FIBA Europe League in 2003–05, and EuroCup in 2005–08)[1] is the 3rd tier level transnational men's professional club basketball competition in Europe. It is organized and run by FIBA Europe. It is not to be confused with the EuroCup Challenge – the now defunct 4th tier level transnational men's professional club basketball competition in Europe, which was also organized and run by FIBA Europe, and played during the 2002–03 to 2006–07 seasons.

Each season's EuroChallenge winner gets promoted to the next season's 2nd tier level Eurocup competition.
 
WRONG!

Aybars, please get your facts straight.

The EuroChallenge (called the FIBA Europe League in 2003–05, and EuroCup in 2005–08)[1] is the 3rd tier level transnational men's professional club basketball competition in Europe. It is organized and run by FIBA Europe. It is not to be confused with the EuroCup Challenge – the now defunct 4th tier level transnational men's professional club basketball competition in Europe, which was also organized and run by FIBA Europe, and played during the 2002–03 to 2006–07 seasons.

Each season's EuroChallenge winner gets promoted to the next season's 2nd tier level Eurocup competition.

I enjoy how you only address like one sentence out of his post, whereas the rest which essentially proves that JV has been dogging it in Europe, you just ignore. Intellectual Dishonesty 101. And you wonder why everyone hates your guts.
 
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