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Because DRtg isn't a great tool to evaluate individual player success on defense. Don's numbers will be better if he's playing with an elite defender like Rudy because the team as a whole is better defensively.

Don made us 4.7 points better offensively and 6.5 points worse defensively when he was on the court.

Trae made Atlanta 8.3 points better offensively and 4.9 points worse defensively when he was on the court.

Trae led his team to the ECF, Don has never been out of the second round.

How is Don better?

Defensive rating isn’t a great tool? Why do Rudy fans always use it to show how great he is then?
 
You have made posting here such a miserable experience.

You derail every conversation you're a part of, and unfortunately, you inject yourself in almost every conversation here. You argue disingenuously, you make little to no effort to understand other people's arguments, and you put words in people's mouths constantly. When people disagree with you, you twist their words and say they lack humility for not agreeing with you.



You are incapable of not throwing a tantrum when somebody disagrees with you. If somebody disagrees with a point you make, no matter how civil, it is guaranteed they are getting a flurry of posts from you hurling personal insults at them in response. In an earlier thread, several people were trying to explain to you a basic principle of statistics (that 2 possessions per game is a tiny sample size), and, instead of making the tiny requisite effort it would have taken to understand their point, you went full-blown politician over it.

Between the two of you, you make honest discussion impossible around here.
Sometimes its easier to just throw people on the ignore list.
 
You have made posting here such a miserable experience.

You derail every conversation you're a part of, and unfortunately, you inject yourself in almost every conversation here. You argue disingenuously, you make little to no effort to understand other people's arguments, and you put words in people's mouths constantly. When people disagree with you, you twist their words and say they lack humility for not agreeing with you.



You are incapable of not throwing a tantrum when somebody disagrees with you. If somebody disagrees with a point you make, no matter how civil, it is guaranteed they are getting a flurry of posts from you hurling personal insults at them in response. In an earlier thread, several people were trying to explain to you a basic principle of statistics (that 2 possessions per game is a tiny sample size), and, instead of making the tiny requisite effort it would have taken to understand their point, you went full-blown politician over it.

Between the two of you, you make honest discussion impossible around here.
You just don't like somebody disagreeing with you about Rudy. Just be honest man.

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How come you used ECF to praise the Hawks role players but it doesn't factor into why Trae is better than Don

You acting like the Hawks players are bums is why I used the ECF it has nothing to do with Trae vs Donovan unless you think Trae is the sole reason they went that far.
 
You acting like the Hawks players are bums is why I used the ECF it has nothing to do with Trae vs Donovan unless you think Trae is the sole reason they went that far.
Trae is certainly the main reason that they went that far...

Why has Collins continued to regress?
 
I agree. This Rudy vs Don divide is incredibly annoying. It's been going on since the COVID diagnosis and hasn't really stopped since. I'm hoping that this all goes away when one or both is traded, but I doubt it.
You are the #1 person stoking the divide and always the first person to talk specifically about the covid ****. It almost seems like you have some kind of dissociative disorder to be criticizing something that you are the main culprit of.
 
C'mon guys, what's this big argument for? Both Trae and Donovan suck on defense. Trae because he's too small and Donovan because he doesn't care other than to make a highlight play once in a while. An argument could be have that Donovan has a potential to be much better on d but that's different story.
 
You are the #1 person stoking the divide and always the first person to talk specifically about the covid ****. It almost seems like you have some kind of dissociative disorder to be criticizing something that you are the main culprit of.
I'm objective about Rudy and yall hate that.

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Trae literally had a PER of 4.21 in the playoffs this year and that means it was Collins fault they lost lol. You can’t make this **** up.
 
C'mon guys, what's this big argument for? Both Trae and Donovan suck on defense. Trae because he's too small and Donovan because he doesn't care other than to make a highlight play once in a while. An argument could be have that Donovan has a potential to be much better on d but that's different story.

This clown said Trae was significantly better than Donovan and I merely brought up how bad he is defensively plus he blamed Collins for the reason the Hawks lost this year when Trae had a 4.21 PER and averaged 15.4 PPG lmao.
 
C'mon guys, what's this big argument for? Both Trae and Donovan suck on defense. Trae because he's too small and Donovan because he doesn't care other than to make a highlight play once in a while. An argument could be have that Donovan has a potential to be much better on d but that's different story.
Donovan is a better defender than Trae... Trae is a better offensive player but he also kinda limits teams in the same way Harden did. I'd personally rather have Donovan... but I can see how Rudy would be better with Trae than Donovan... he's an amazing passer.
 
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