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San Francisco have played the equivalent of a good MWC conference schedule.

New Mexico just beat BYU or Utah.

Not true at all. SF is paired up against the AFC North this season, which is the best division in terms of won/loss percentage (+10 W/L). SF is 2-1 against the AFC North after that tough road loss to Baltimore, with a home game against Pittsburgh next Sunday. And in terms of the division, the NFC East and AFC South both have worse won/loss %'s than the NFC West. Arizona and Seattle have been playing pretty well of late after terrible starts. Look at the NFC East, Cowboys and Giants have been playing as if they want a higher draft pick. Philadelphia and Washington have been absolutely turrible. And discount all the records in the AFC South by two games as each team picks up an easy 2 wins vs. Indianapolis.

Not saying SF is a great team. Their pass defense is suspect and their offense is weak. I think they've overachieved with Smith as the QB. He's still below average and can't make plays in the red zone. His mobility is also below average. Put a decent QB on the team with that run defense and the 49'ers are probably undefeated.
 
Harrison getting suspended 1 game is such garbage. Might as well put some flags on these guys or play 2 hand touch. The QB is OUT OF THE POCKET RUNNING and you still can't hit him? Helmet to helmet you say? I mean what if Harrison tackles him at the knees? Penalty. What happens if his helmet starts in the middle of his chest but slides up to the QB's Chin. Penalty. So pretty much there is a moving target of about 1 foot by 1 foot that you need to hit.

********!
 
I think the NFL needs to finally accept that somtimes, QBs are going to get injured. Sometimes, people are going to have concussions. Sometimes, receivers going across the middle might get hurt!

It happens.

That's football!

If you don't want to play a violent sport, stick to golf.
 
I think the NFL needs to finally accept that somtimes, QBs are going to get injured. Sometimes, people are going to have concussions. Sometimes, receivers going across the middle might get hurt!

It happens.

That's football!

If you don't want to play a violent sport, stick to golf.

Your idiocy baffles me. Ray Lewis has managed to play the game, play it like a man, like someone who opponents fear, and for over a decade now, but without the ******** headhunting that Harrison so ignorantly continues to feel the need to do. He's a scumbag plain and simple. If he were on my team, I'm sure I'd feel somewhat differently. But I'd still be objective enough to realize that his actions are 1) illegal per the rules 2) unnecessary in making the tackle in a manner that is still downright violent and effective and 3) extremely threatening to the long-term health of the players upon whom he inflicts such pain.

Know what the **** you're talking about before you make ignorant comments. The 1986 Bengals players have a 44% memory loss rate and given the increased "athleticism" of players over the last 10-20 years, rates like these are only likely to go up unless rules are put into place to protect unnecessary head trauma. Somehow every other NFL player manages to make tackles, many of which are violent at times, without the deliberate head to head contact.
 
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Harrison getting suspended 1 game is such garbage. Might as well put some flags on these guys or play 2 hand touch. The QB is OUT OF THE POCKET RUNNING and you still can't hit him? Helmet to helmet you say? I mean what if Harrison tackles him at the knees? Penalty. What happens if his helmet starts in the middle of his chest but slides up to the QB's Chin. Penalty. So pretty much there is a moving target of about 1 foot by 1 foot that you need to hit.

********!

See my post to The Thriller.
 
Your idiocy baffles me. Ray Lewis has managed to play the game, play it like a man, like someone who opponents fear, and for over a decade now, but without the ******** headhunting that Harrison so ignorantly continues to feel the need to do. He's a scumbag plain and simple. If he were on my team, I'm sure I'd feel somewhat differently. But I'd still be objective enough to realize that his actions are 1) illegal per the rules 2) unnecessary in making the tackle in a manner that is still downright violent and effective and 3) extremely threatening to the long-term health of the players upon whom he inflicts such pain.

Know what the **** you're talking about before you make ignorant comments. The 1986 Bengals players have a 44% memory loss rate and given the increased "athleticism" of players over the last 10-20 years, rates like these are only likely to go up unless rules are put into place to protect unnecessary head trauma. Somehow every other NFL player manages to make tackles, many of which are violent at times, without the deliberate head to head contact.

2 Things wrong with your post

You used Ray Lewis as your defense - A Murder and consistant helmet to helmet candidate. In the last game vs. the Steelers he went high, helmet to helmet, on Ward yet wasn't flagged...

Harrison is a poster child for GODell...


2nd problem
You used the BUNGLES as an example.. they were horrible and got hit a lot thus the reason they have memory loss.


Salmon - you may or may not have played ball at any level. The problem is that players are 2X as fast, strong, big as they were previously. The step up for me from High School to College was like night and day due to the size/speed difference. I can't imagine how fast it is in the NFL.

I mean look at Woodley for example.. a guy that is 6'4'' 256 LBS and runs a 4.6 40...
 
2 Things wrong with your post

You used Ray Lewis as your defense - A Murder and consistant helmet to helmet candidate. In the last game vs. the Steelers he went high, helmet to helmet, on Ward yet wasn't flagged...

Harrison is a poster child for GODell...


2nd problem
You used the BUNGLES as an example.. they were horrible and got hit a lot thus the reason they have memory loss.


Salmon - you may or may not have played ball at any level. The problem is that players are 2X as fast, strong, big as they were previously. The step up for me from High School to College was like night and day due to the size/speed difference. I can't imagine how fast it is in the NFL.

I mean look at Woodley for example.. a guy that is 6'4'' 256 LBS and runs a 4.6 40...

This is your counter?

Jesus. Where to start.
 
No, I didn't really watch it much. Why?
No reason was just curious on your opinion since being a Phili fan I thought you'd watch, that and I also thought you used to watch the Phins a bit back in the day.

Now a more pressing question for me is who will the Phins get as HC next year.
I hope they don't completely turnover the roster that sometimes happens, I think the Phins on D have good pieces.
 
No reason was just curious on your opinion since being a Phili fan I thought you'd watch, that and I also thought you used to watch the Phins a bit back in the day.

Now a more pressing question for me is who will the Phins get as HC next year.
I hope they don't completely turnover the roster that sometimes happens, I think the Phins on D have good pieces.

Yeah I'm an Eagles fan and use to be a Miami fan but I had the RZ channel on for FF purposes. Plus the Eagles are out of it and I'm actually hoping they lose out in order to get a better draft pick.

As far as Miami goes, I completely agree. They have a lot of very good pieces and that's shown over the last month and a half. Minus the Eagles game of course. What's promising for you is that there's some legit coaches out there like Cowher and Fisher. If I'm Miami I make a full court press for either, then go after Norv Turner to be your offensive coordinator, draft Matt Barkley if he comes out (Turner would do wonders with him), and either let Moore start next year as the starter until Barkley's ready or go after someone like Jon Kitna to be a strong mentor for the kid until he's ready. Or something along those lines. The rest of the draft can be spent on strengthening your defense as well as your offensive line. You could also use a legit running back and another weapon in the passing game so if someone stands out in those areas and they're still on the board, they should draft them. Draft best available.
 
Yeah I'm an Eagles fan and use to be a Miami fan but I had the RZ channel on for FF purposes. Plus the Eagles are out of it and I'm actually hoping they lose out in order to get a better draft pick.

As far as Miami goes, I completely agree. They have a lot of very good pieces and that's shown over the last month and a half. Minus the Eagles game of course. What's promising for you is that there's some legit coaches out there like Cowher and Fisher. If I'm Miami I make a full court press for either, then go after Norv Turner to be your offensive coordinator, draft Matt Barkley if he comes out (Turner would do wonders with him), and either let Moore start next year as the starter until Barkley's ready or go after someone like Jon Kitna to be a strong mentor for the kid until he's ready. Or something along those lines. The rest of the draft can be spent on strengthening your defense as well as your offensive line. You could also use a legit running back and another weapon in the passing game so if someone stands out in those areas and they're still on the board, they should draft them. Draft best available.
Miami has a legit RB in the rookie but he hasn't stayed healthy. You do need two RB though now a days
 
Yeah I'm an Eagles fan and use to be a Miami fan but I had the RZ channel on for FF purposes. Plus the Eagles are out of it and I'm actually hoping they lose out in order to get a better draft pick.

As far as Miami goes, I completely agree. They have a lot of very good pieces and that's shown over the last month and a half. Minus the Eagles game of course. What's promising for you is that there's some legit coaches out there like Cowher and Fisher. If I'm Miami I make a full court press for either, then go after Norv Turner to be your offensive coordinator, draft Matt Barkley if he comes out (Turner would do wonders with him), and either let Moore start next year as the starter until Barkley's ready or go after someone like Jon Kitna to be a strong mentor for the kid until he's ready. Or something along those lines. The rest of the draft can be spent on strengthening your defense as well as your offensive line. You could also use a legit running back and another weapon in the passing game so if someone stands out in those areas and they're still on the board, they should draft them. Draft best available.
Yep pretty much agree with everything you said, on defense I think the biggest weakness is safeties and with as many injuries as the O-line has had they could use another RG or RT and of course a QB. Because of Sanchez and Leinart USC QB's make me nervous but Barkley seems legit although I am be intrigued by RGIII.
 
Your idiocy baffles me. Ray Lewis has managed to play the game, play it like a man, like someone who opponents fear, and for over a decade now, but without the ******** headhunting that Harrison so ignorantly continues to feel the need to do. He's a scumbag plain and simple. If he were on my team, I'm sure I'd feel somewhat differently. But I'd still be objective enough to realize that his actions are 1) illegal per the rules 2) unnecessary in making the tackle in a manner that is still downright violent and effective and 3) extremely threatening to the long-term health of the players upon whom he inflicts such pain.

Know what the **** you're talking about before you make ignorant comments. The 1986 Bengals players have a 44% memory loss rate and given the increased "athleticism" of players over the last 10-20 years, rates like these are only likely to go up unless rules are put into place to protect unnecessary head trauma. Somehow every other NFL player manages to make tackles, many of which are violent at times, without the deliberate head to head contact.

I'll respond to you in a civil manner and I ask that you do the same. Lets remember, we're on a board to discuss issues, not make personal attacks.

Lets be clear on this, James Harrison has earned his reputation. He has in the past, taken cheap shots. One of the most obvious was his attack against Vince Young when he was with the Titans.

However, just like Rasheed Wallace was in the NBA, Harrison is now the target of the refs. His hit against McCoy was going to be ugly. McCoy was running but made no attempt really to juke or avoid Harrison. Harrison's job is to stop the QB. Two forces moving in opposite directions at good speeds is going to be ugly. Had Harrison gone low, Colt could have suffered a much serious injury. If Harrison turns his shoulders in order to hit Colt he

A. Gives Colt a running lane/by turning his shoulders he leaves himself vulnerable to be juked.
B. If he connects, Colt is still going to be demolished. Don't run straight into a big DE who has a running start.

In all this discussion, you're the only person I've seen or heard, that has seemingly called Harrison's hit as headhunting or dirty.

Lets watch the hit and let others decide, shall we?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfFW-Yezv0k

Also, there's a big difference between a DE who is constantly exposed to hitting QBs and a middle-linebacker. It's a lot easier to see a hit made by a DE who beats the TE, Tackle, and/or RB and is then one on one with the QB and a backer who can make all the illegal hits he wants in dogpiles among a bunch of other linemen. It's not always true, I'll show you a video of Brian Urlacher being called for H2H.... But I think the league is going overboard with this. There are going to be be hits, nasty hit, in football. Some people are going to have concussions, be injured, and suffer through health problems. It's football.

Lastly, I don't think you can defend that the league hasn't gone overboard with this roughing the passer nonsense.

For every illegal hit there are at least 10 bogus calls.

Please, I ask you to defend these calls:

[url[/MEDIA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypxacviNMBQ[/url]

[url[/MEDIA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWQbI_z4wiA[/url]
 
Falcons making a push and can they compete against the likes of the Saints and Packers?

They looked awfully good last night vs the Jags.
 
I don't understand how someone can defend Harrison in this instance. Whatever happened to just tackling someone? He didn't have to lead with his helmet like that, and he didn't have any obstacles or funny angles to make an excuse, either.

NFL football is easily one of the most dangerous sports in the U.S. It's more dangerous than MMA. Treating it as such is the right call.
 
I don't understand how someone can defend Harrison in this instance. Whatever happened to just tackling someone? He didn't have to lead with his helmet like that, and he didn't have any obstacles or funny angles to make an excuse, either.

NFL football is easily one of the most dangerous sports in the U.S. It's more dangerous than MMA. Treating it as such is the right call.

You can defend both sides in this case imo. Harrison plays football how it was meant to be played and the NFL is trying to change that to protect their players. Bottom line is, football is a violent sport and the players know it.
 
You can defend both sides in this case imo. Harrison plays football how it was meant to be played and the NFL is trying to change that to protect their players. Bottom line is, football is a violent sport and the players know it.
Managing the factors that lead to longterm and irreparable injury is possible, and the NFL is doing what they can.

Again, the right call here.

The defenseless receiver thing is a bigger issue, IMO, but again, you don't have to totally lay out a guy to defend a slant route.

One other thing, these guys are bigger, faster, and stronger than they ever have been. What would be defined as a "hard" tackle in the 70's does not compare to what these guys are doing now on a physical level. Football players 30 years ago were lumbering stiffs in comparison.
 
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