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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

YoungJefe said:
Only Rudy has been mentioned in trade talks
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I’ve heard Conley and Royce and Bogey mentioned by various sports pods/rumor stuff… Rudy is the main headliner… so yeah everyone will focus there. I think it’s been actually much louder than normal.
 
I’m really not sure why Chicago isn’t doing whatever they can to get a Gobert deal done. They would instantly become the favorite in the East.

They should go all-in. What is an extra pick or two going to matter for them especially when they can contend for the next 2-3 years?
 
Elizah Huge said:
I’m really not sure why Chicago isn’t doing whatever they can to get a Gobert deal done. They would instantly become the favorite in the East.

They should go all-in. What is an extra pick or two going to matter for them especially when they can contend for the next 2-3 years?
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CHI and ATL both have strong incentive to trade for Rudy, it would elevate either team to the top of the east. Both teams are capped out for the near future as well, and they don't have options to get a player that can help them more than Gobert. At minimum Gobert is going to produce at top 10 defense, but more likely a top 5 defense. Very important for the 22nd and 26th best defenses last season.
 
KqWIN said:
CHI and ATL both have strong incentive to trade for Rudy, it would elevate either team to the top of the east. Both teams are capped out for the near future as well, and they don't have options to get a player that can help them more than Gobert. At minimum Gobert is going to produce at top 10 defense, but more likely a top 5 defense. Very important for the 22nd and 26th best defenses last season.
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Atlanta would give up a few starters where as Chicago would be replacing Vucevic with Gobert and Williams is their main trade piece. They get exponentially better where as Atlanta gets better for sure but not nearly as much.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Atlanta would give up a few starters where as Chicago would be replacing Vucevic with Gobert and Williams is their main trade piece. They get exponentially better where as Atlanta gets better for sure but not nearly as much.
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They'd have like $130M committed to Gobert, Ball, DeRozan, and LaVine.
 
YoungJefe said:
Celtics the favorite for Beal
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The Beal opt out is a nothing burger... it was always going to happen... if anything he gets a raise on his opt out year. He will re-sign with the Wiz... its basically telegraphed already. If he want to go somewhere else he can get his money and they can trade him at the deadline. It also works better for the Celtics and others to get him this way since they can't accept a player in a sign and trade unless they are under the apron... which they aren't.

Same kinda thing will happen with Dame... he will agree to be a good soldier... get his extension and if things go south he will work with the team on a trade that benefits both parties. Its the Paul George Sam Presti model.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Atlanta would give up a few starters where as Chicago would be replacing Vucevic with Gobert and Williams is their main trade piece. They get exponentially better where as Atlanta gets better for sure but not nearly as much.
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I think both teams have made legit offers for Gobert. I think Ainge is holding out, stoking the market, and asking for more. He'll strike when the moment is right. Let's see where we are in 24 hours.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Atlanta would give up a few starters where as Chicago would be replacing Vucevic with Gobert and Williams is their main trade piece. They get exponentially better where as Atlanta gets better for sure but not nearly as much.
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I'm not sure Hunter is coming back in the trade, so either team is losing a couple of their projected starters. ATL has a much wider variety of assets to get the trade done in different ways. ATL also gets to keep the core structure of their team (Trae PnR) with a massive upgrade at the C position. When thinking about a Trae-Rudy combo, I don't think there's a pairing of star players who cover for each other's weaknesses as well.

ATL is also just a better team than CHI despite the difference in record. Much better point differential. They were the #2 offensive team in the league last year. With Trae and Rudy, I think they are firmly top 10 teams on both ends and potentially top 5 in both.
 
YoungJefe said:
With a bunch of guys that have never shown they can perform in the playoffs...
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Better than 130M of Vuc, Williams, Lavine, Demar, Ball... which is the alternative. Neither of those guys have shown they are better playoff players that Rudy.
 
YoungJefe said:
They'd have like $130M committed to Gobert, Ball, DeRozan, and LaVine.
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It’s actually closer to around 120M. You act like that is such a bad thing. They could do much worse for that amount of money.

Atlanta has almost the same amount committed to Trae/Bogdanovic/Huerter/Collins/Capela.

Which of those two teams would you rather have? Chicago and it’s not close.
 
Elizah Huge said:
It’s actually closer to around 120M. You act like that is such a bad thing. They could do much worse for that amount of money.

Atlanta has almost the same amount committed to Trae/Bogdanovic/Huerter/Collins/Capela.

Which of those two teams would you rather have? Chicago and it’s not close.
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The ATL group has shown they can win in the playoffs together, lol.
 
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