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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

You don't know that that's what held up the Chicago trade. There have been a lot of reports that they were unwilling to include Patrick Williams and that's why a trade wasn't made.
That could be it, too. At least no damage was done last night. Had we done the trade without Pat, and no good future 1st rounders JF would be in Kahoots over that too.
 
If this is the plan, I will be checked out as a fan next season.
Listening to Ryan and based on all the reports it seems like he’s extremely focused on All Star weekend next season. I think that the Celtics keeping most of their personnel together and then finding success under a new coach will also play a role in our personnel decisions for better or worse.

Dennis Lindsey just really drained us for a lot of of our trade assets so it’s difficult to see a clear path to improvement with our current group.

I would love to be wrong but when you our lack of moves during the draft and the fact that we don’t seem to be in a rush to hire a new coach it just doesn’t really seem like there’s a huge sense of urgency from the team to make major changes.
 
This offseason has made me pretty meh on Ryan as an owner. We needed to be decisive because the moves that we make will dictate our roster/outlook for the foreseeable future and instead we've half stepped every chance we could. And in typically Jazz fashion, being hesitant to make moves will ensure that we're not good enough to contend but also not bad enough to tank and acquire the star talent required to contend.

I certainly agree it is not off to a promising start, but it is probably worth mentioning that the 2022-23 off-season technically hasn’t even started yet. Let’s see how things play out over the next month.
 

This has all been apparent for a long time. That the FO didn’t realize that before is embarrassing. There’s one guy that can be traded that returns you win now pieces. Royce doesn’t hold value at $9M/yr. Mildly humorous that people thought we’d get value back for him. The bottom line is that we need to move both Royce and Mike. We will definitely take back less overall talent but what we need from those 60 mpg is something different and I think both those guys’ spots are the place to improve. I really think what you’d lose on offense vs. what you’d gain on defense in a Bojan move is a net negative, while what you gain moving the other two is a net positive. Pair this with a coach that gets buy in and we’re still in this thing, as much as everyone believes we aren’t. But it really is dependent on hitting on at least 2/3 of those things.
 
This has all been apparent for a long time. That the FO didn’t realize that before is embarrassing. There’s one guy that can be traded that returns you win now pieces. Royce doesn’t hold value at $9M/yr. Mildly humorous that people thought we’d get value back for him. The bottom line is that we need to move both Royce and Mike. We will definitely take back less overall talent but what we need from those 60 mpg is something different and I think both those guys’ spots are the place to improve. I really think what you’d lose on offense vs. what you’d gain on defense in a Bojan move is a net negative, while what you gain moving the other two is a net positive. Pair this with a coach that gets buy in and we’re still in this thing, as much as everyone believes we aren’t. But it really is dependent on hitting on at least 2/3 of those things.

What really sucks is Mike had value at the trade deadline and we likely could've gotten a good return for him. Then he struggled the second half of the season and completely turned to **** in the playoffs. It was painfully obvious by the deadline that this team wasn't even close to being a contender, and the front office knew someone of Mike's size and age could fall off the cliff at any moment. It would've been nice if they had the foresight to trade him before he completely tanked all his value.
 
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