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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

NUMBERICA said:
Jazz need to swoop in at the 11th hour and trade Donovan to New York. Would be nice to mostly dump his money into space.
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If they swoop in and trade for Murray with all those picks the Don to Knicks trade closes up. There are not an infinite amount of teams that will give up their draft futures for Donovan. Miami will also do "something" this summer. But dat all starrz game doe!!!
 
Hekate said:
It's welrd that no one knows what to think about this trade, lol. They just trying to save money.
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They dropped below the tax. They also thinned out a thin roster... everything they do is to save money... wild they didn't wait 12 months to extend MP Jr. given his health history.
 
LoPo said:
Yep. And great trade by Washington. Might actually pan out well for Denver too.
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Its awful for Denver. Morris is so solid and signed on a bargain deal. Barton isn't amazing but is roughly equivalent to KCP. This is all about the $6M they shaved off to get under the tax. They got a two time MVP and are allergic to paying tax.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
If they swoop in and trade for Murray with all those picks the Don to Knicks trade closes up. There are not an infinite amount of teams that will give up their draft futures for Donovan. Miami will also do "something" this summer. But dat all starrz game doe!!!
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There is not an infinite amount of deals out there for our little chucker with the big smile. The Knicks are the spot that will pay the most and letting that window close is an incredible mismanagement of assets. They are obviously desperate for star guards, saying nothing of the multitude of CAA ties and the extra ~$70 million it puts in Ryan’s pockets.
 
NUMBERICA said:
There is not an infinite amount of deals out there for our little chucker with the big smile. The Knicks are the spot that will pay the most and letting that window close is an incredible mismanagement of assets. They are obviously desperate for star guards, saying nothing of the multitude of CAA ties and the extra ~$70 million it puts in Ryan’s pockets.
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I think they'd still sign Brunson and do the deal with picks and Fournier, Toppin, Quickley... take 5-6 picks and that and walk away.
 
NUMBERICA said:
There is not an infinite amount of deals out there for our little chucker with the big smile. The Knicks are the spot that will pay the most and letting that window close is an incredible mismanagement of assets. They are obviously desperate for star guards, saying nothing of the multitude of CAA ties and the extra ~$70 million it puts in Ryan’s pockets.
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Its almost like that thread I started... the Knicks were at the cross road of desperation and hope and would have laid up basically everything on the table to get their guy.
 
How about something along these lines:

NY Out: Fournier/Toppin/Quickley/picks?
NY In: Mitchell

Utah Out: Mitchell/Conley
Utah In: Fournier/Murray/Toppin/picks?

SA Out: Murray
SA In: Conley/Quickley/picks?

Did Hardy/Murray work together extensively?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Its awful for Denver. Morris is so solid and signed on a bargain deal. Barton isn't amazing but is roughly equivalent to KCP. This is all about the $6M they shaved off to get under the tax. They got a two time MVP and are allergic to paying tax.
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I don't like it for Denver, but I'm am a fan of KCP. I think he could be very impactful for them come playoff time. He provides an edge they seem to lack.
 
Denver cuts so many corners its incredible. Makes me appreciate Ryan quite a bit. Last year they didn't want to pay Davon Reed to convert his contract and he was not eligible for the playoffs... likely doesn't make a difference but just so bush league.
 
Ineptimusprime said:
Curious to see if we make a deal to duck the tax today.
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it won't matter for last year... only next year... so have all summer and up to the trade deadline to do it.
 
LoPo said:
I don't like it for Denver, but I'm am a fan of KCP. I think he could be very impactful for them come playoff time. He provides an edge they seem to lack.
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I like KCP for them but they are hurting their depth... Murray will be back but you want to force him into 36 minutes a night coming off knee surgery? MP Jr. will never be a guy you can count on to be healthy regularly. They are setting themselves up for wasting another year of Jokic's prime to save money.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I like KCP for them but they are hurting their depth... Murray will be back but you want to force him into 36 minutes a night coming off knee surgery? MP Jr. will never be a guy you can count on to be healthy regularly. They are setting themselves up for wasting another year of Jokic's prime to save money.
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I agree. They are taking a massive risk. Ish is a poor man's Monte Morris who is a below average starter.

I like KCP better than Barton, but you're right, they are risking a lot by going a bit thinner on quality.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
They dropped below the tax. They also thinned out a thin roster... everything they do is to save money... wild they didn't wait 12 months to extend MP Jr. given his health history.
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Monte filled a lot of non-Jokic minutes as the PG. Now they need Bones to step up significantly. Murray was good but he didn't necessarily contribute much to playmaking. They can't even force him minutes as he is coming back from an injury.

Kcp fits but it's just lacklustre as overall talent.
 
LoPo said:
I agree. They are taking a massive risk. Ish is a poor man's Monte Morris who is a below average starter.

I like KCP better than Barton, but you're right, they are risking a lot by going a bit thinner on quality.
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This deal really effs up any chance we get a good Conley deal done too. Morris filling that need... now Jones stays in Memphis? Does Brogdon go anywhere now? I think we can do one of three things...

- Conley for Brogdon - 1 year less on his deal. Mike is a better mentor than Malcolm who is a smart dude but prickly by all accounts. I'm okay with this but just because Malcolm is bigger doesn't mean he helps the defense.

- Conley to Memphis if Jones walks for MLE somewhere he can start that we are seeing right now.

- Conley to Detroit - They valued AB as a vet mentor so that role may be filled but Mike for CoJo and Kelly Ollynyk may be there... Detroit has Noel who the GM loves, Stewart, Duren, and are bringing back Bagley by all accounts... so a bit of a logjam there.

I think the better/different route is to look around at what JC gets you and move Mike to the bench... which might help us have a better overall team tbh.
 
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