2022 Annual Jazzfanz All Time NBA Draft
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LoPo
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Lol. Okay. Sure.
In his day, MJ was a top athlete. Maybe #1.
In today's game, MJ is not a top athlete. Maybe top 10.
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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This is a great analogy of why Jordan is the goat
There’s a lot of variance with Lebron, which makes sense since he’s the most talented/gifted player of all time.
So while Lebron is the dude that lost to Dirk and a bunch of really good role players, he also beat one of the best all-time teams in the finals after being down 3-1.
LoPo
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LBJ or Kobe win the 6 that MJ won if roles were reversed.
I don't think MJ beats GS if roles were reversed.
MJ had to have Pippen to win, but Pippen gets slandered by MJ. Shameful
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I don't think MJ beats GS if roles were reversed.
MJ had to have Pippen to win, but Pippen gets slandered by MJ. Shameful
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And MJ had to actually struggle in his younger days to get where he got. He was not seen as particularly gifted at the game. He worked himself into that from scrap and that’s the biggest difference in their games and their achievements.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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They might’ve lost had Draymond Green not been suspended. Cavs were very lucky in that aspect. Curry also wilted the last few games.
The Fresh Prince
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Give MJ Kyrie and Love and he would.
In a year he mostly played baseball? Yep. Then won three rings and three finals MVPs in three years. For the second time.
You know, if anything, showing up and dropping into the NBA and looking as good as he did is actually an unparalleled achievement.
LoPo
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And GS doesn't beat Cleveland the first year if Kyrie and Love don't miss the entire series.
What LeBron did to beat the 73 win Warriors was the greatest accomplishment in the history of the NBA.
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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You mean when he came back at the end of the season not in basketball shape? On a team going no where?
No way anyone can definitively say this as fact, but in my opinion both LBJ and Kobe had more flaws than Jordan and it shows as they lost a lot after figuring it all out, Jordan at his peak never lost and never really challenged all that much so IMO no they wouldn’t have won all six of those years.
You still thinking in terms of implanting 96 Jordan into 2015. Jordan would’ve been even more athletic stronger faster in every way than he actually was. He wouldn’t have gone down 3-1 and then Draymond gets suspended.
That’s why Jordan never lost. He expected the very best and pushed his teammates in the same way he did himself. He drove and pushed his teammates every bit as hard as he did himself go watch the Jordan thing on Netflix
LoPo
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Oh, changing the goalposts are we? The loss to the Magic was very similar to the Miami loss to Dallas. That was the conversation
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I honestly don’t know how that’s moving the goalposts. Please elaborate the similarities. Be as specific as possible.
LoPo
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You brought up post Magic loss accomplishments. Why?
LeBron lost to Dallas then went on to win titles after. He actually beat a team better than anybody MJ ever faced in a Finals.
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Holy **** you are digging your own grave, and it’s going to be 12 ft deep lmao. How do you do this to yourself
LoPo
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Ugh. I hate how every MJ debate turns into an LBJ debate.
MJ was great but not a God. He owes so much to Pippen but disrespects him.
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MJ was great but not a God. He owes so much to Pippen but disrespects him.
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Didn’t disrespect him at all
The Fresh Prince
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The Bronsexuals on social media are even worse at defending Lebron's legacy as the GOAT.
I don't have a GOAT, I appreciate greatness. Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Jordan, Lebron, even Bill Russell all have a strong standing to being called the greatest. It's like boxing. Sugar Ray Robinson, Floyd Mayweather, Ali all have solidified their legacy to being in the GOAT conversation, but we will never truly know. Until they make a time machine, and bring back all the all time greats and give them all the modern day tools to succeed will I determine who the greatest of all time is. Lol.
LoPo
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I agree. There is no GOAT. Most people get really triggered by that.
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