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Assuming we're tanking ...

Is there any legitimate chance we could get Victor Wembeyama in next year’s draft?
 
UB said:
Is there any legitimate chance we could get Victor Wembeyama in next year’s draft?
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I’d say there is roughly a 14% chance.
 
NUMBERICA said:
The way I look at it is you absolutely crater the build the likes of which has rarely ever been seen now, then you try to win and build earnestly from that point. At that point - if you make it a point to not trade any picks for players - the team will probably be organically bad for a few years, but you spare yourself the shame of actively throwing games and you get the benefits of tanking for that window of time.

If the Jazz hit on some picks big and they get 'too good too fast', well that's just fine.
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Hopefully we come up on the next Shaq and Penny type duo.
 
Release the Kraken said:
When I look at hapless teams like Detroit, Orlando and Houston, just hanging on for one big score, it doesn’t seem all that glamorous. Just sayin….
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Ehhhh Detroit has three great building blocks, Orlando has two… Houston has like 1.5.

Tanking ain’t glamorous… it’s the work you do to get to glamour someday. With the big war chest of picks our rebuild should be efficient and fruitful.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Ehhhh Detroit has three great building blocks, Orlando has two… Houston has like 1.5.

Tanking ain’t glamorous… it’s the work you do to get to glamour someday. With the big war chest of picks our rebuild should be efficient and fruitful.
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True! And the picks we accumulate in trades are completely unaffected by whether we tank or compete.

We’ll see what direction this thing takes. With Boston, Ainge never stripped it bare and after “tanking” in 06/07 won a Championship in 08 by trading Jefferson, szerbiak, West and the #5 pick towards Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen.
 
Release the Kraken said:
True! And the picks we accumulate in trades are completely unaffected by whether we tank or compete.

We’ll see what direction this thing takes. With Boston, Ainge never stripped it bare and after “tanking” in 06/07 won a Championship in 08 by trading Jefferson, szerbiak, West and the #5 pick towards Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen.
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They tanked in ‘06-‘07 as you just mentioned. They stripped it bare in 2013 when they traded Pierce and Garnett which set them up for their success right now.
 
NUMBERICA said:
They tanked in ‘06-‘07 as you just mentioned. They stripped it bare in 2013 when they traded Pierce and Garnett which set them up for their success right now.
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Trading an over the hill Garnett, Pierce and Terry was stripping it bare? Kinda surprising then that Brooklyn didn’t experience more success and that Boston was back in the playoffs 2015.
 
Release the Kraken said:
Trading an over the hill Garnett, Pierce and Terry was stripping it bare? Kinda surprising then that Brooklyn didn’t experience more success and that Boston was back in the playoffs 2015.
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They literally made the second round which was farther than they made it in the prior 6 years.

If Minnesota makes the second round but loses and the Knicks lose in the first round does that mean we didn’t strip it bare?
 
Release the Kraken said:
Trading an over the hill Garnett, Pierce and Terry was stripping it bare? Kinda surprising then that Brooklyn didn’t experience more success and that Boston was back in the playoffs 2015.
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Is this not implying trading who they did wasn’t stripping it bare because Brooklyn didn’t have more playoff success and Boston’s rebuild lasted only 2 years?
 
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