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Jimmer! making NAOS cry now

There's a difference between a double-team and failing to handle a screen properly. I didn't see a deliberate attempt to double-team out by the perimeter.

It is a double team when there are two players defending one player.
Jimmer should learn to hit the guy the double came from for an easy basket, but he still had 2 guys guarding him after the screen.
Call it what you want, I will call it a double team.
 
This video shows him being doubled, I'm curious if he was ever tripled out there.
We would have to have the full game to be able to find out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9RVfjMTq5M


I hate to break it to you JazzSpazz, but you sound pretty foolish in this thread. There is a difference between a double team, trapping the point guard, and locking down on the pick and roll. Jimmer is not being double teamed in this video.

Also, in a previous post you claim that Jimmer has a better assist to turnover ratio than Tyreke Evans. Where are you getting your data? From one game? I don't know if you have very studied statistics, but that is an egregious error! Jimmer doesn't have an assist to turnover ratio yet. He still hasn't played in a real NBA game!!!

Sorry, I just feel the need to bring people back down to earth when they are being ridiculous.
 
I hate to break it to you JazzSpazz, but you sound pretty foolish in this thread. There is a difference between a double team, trapping the point guard, and locking down on the pick and roll. Jimmer is not being double teamed in this video.

Also, in a previous post you claim that Jimmer has a better assist to turnover ratio than Tyreke Evans. Where are you getting your data? From one game? I don't know if you have very studied statistics, but that is an egregious error! Jimmer doesn't have an assist to turnover ratio yet. He still hasn't played in a real NBA game!!!

Sorry, I just feel the need to bring people back down to earth when they are being ridiculous.

I just happen to be on the surface of the earth. Just because you are holed up like golem under a mountain doesn't mean I need to go be with you.

Chillax. I was talking about the 2 preseason games Jimmer has played in because he has not yet played a regular season game. You act like stats for these games do not exist. Just because they are not on the back of a basketball card does not mean they did not happen. Am I claiming it's all that big of a deal, like you seem to think... no. Also, reread the post and maybe with a little luck you will catch on that I was passing on some things I saw on a Kings fan board. I thought it was interesting what they were saying, and what they thought of Jimmer.

I hate to break it to you, but you are the one that sounds foolish for overreacting to some post of mine.
You are right, I have not "very studied statistics", as much as you have not "very studied English or comprehension".

As to a double team, it doesn't matter that it comes as a trap or "lock down" after a pick and roll. If 2 guys are guarding one guy, even for a brief period of time, it is a double. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. The point of the double on the pick is to get a turnover or make a pass in to the open man very difficult, to counter any advantage gained by the pick. The roll is to take advantage of the open man now that there is..... duh duh duh.... a double team or in other words... two basketball players actively guarding one basketball player.

Simple arithmetic, don't let the big English words get in the way.
 
Wait, so are all those .....dot, dot, dot's meaning you're being sarcastic?

NAOS is no longer the object of my affection after that sick Curry pass. Now you are.

As much as I'd love to go around Jimmering every thread on the board for a solid year sounding like an idiot fan boy living a dream because my hometown hero made two shots in the NBA PRESEASON, I'm going with "ou sound pretty foolish in this thread". Jimmer sucks so there.
 
Wait, so are all those .....dot, dot, dot's meaning you're being sarcastic?

NAOS is no longer the object of my affection after that sick Curry pass. Now you are.

As much as I'd love to go around Jimmering every thread on the board for a solid year sounding like an idiot fan boy living a dream because my hometown hero made two shots in the NBA PRESEASON, I'm going with "ou sound pretty foolish in this thread". Jimmer sucks so there.

Thanks, it's good to have you back.

Keep the dream alive.
 
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12-22-2011 12:07 PM
Alec treyBurk
Thread: Jimmer! making NAOS cry...

That's cold you dirty bird. -Dale

I have nothing against you Alec treyBurk, but you asked for it.

Thanks for the neg.

Peace
 
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I was talking about post #16.

Well, I supposed you could interpret it two different ways.

basketballreference.com allows you to sort by opponents 3 pt.% for twelve of Slona's full seasons, ending from 1999-2010. If you count the times the Jazz ended a15th or 16th in that category as median, they were median 5 times, above median 4 times, and below median 3 times. If instead you go with above median being 15 or better, and below median being 16 or worse, they were actually tied, with 6 above and 6 below. Mixed in were a some top-ten years and some bottom-ten years.
 
Can't figure out how Curry sprained his ankle on THAT play! Looked innocent enough. And your saying it was his surgically repaired ankle? Were his ankles taped??? No way he could have sprained it on that play if his ankle was taped!!!
 
You said "during Sloan's tenure", not 1999-2010.

The stats don't give a breakdown of how often teams got easy baskets because the Jazz were scrambling out to the three point line, leaving someone else open.
 
You said "during Sloan's tenure", not 1999-2010.

You think it was worse when we had Eaton, a younger Stockton & Malone, etc.? I researched every year for which I could find data.

The stats don't give a breakdown of how often teams got easy baskets because the Jazz were scrambling out to the three point line, leaving someone else open.

Nor do they give a breakdown on how many easy rebounds were had because the Jazz let opponents take bad shots. We can go back-and-forth on unsupported conclusions all day. The only evidence presented so far indicates the Jazz 3-point defense was neither particularly worse nor better than the rest of the NBA under Sloan. Feel free to provide new evidence.
 
Jimmer was lucky that the other guy had a bad ankle, or he would have had the ball stolen.

Surely you must be joking.
Jimmer let him think he could get to the ball because he knew he would hurt his ankle trying.
If you ever think you are smarter than The Jimmer, you are not.
 
Where I come from, a good cross over does not involve the defender poking the ball towards the backcourt.

Vermont?
He got lucky, anyone can flail around and accidentally swipe the ball while twisting an ankle.
I've done it many times against NBA players I ball with.
 
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