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2023 NBA Draft Megathread

seattlejazzfan said:
Cason Wallace might be my favorite frosh right now. just love how he plays. but his ceiling does seem limited. just doesn't show much ability to create at this point and that's a problem. but the bball iq, playing under control, excellent shooting mechanics and the elite defense are just awesome to watch from a guy so young and Cal seems to want him on the floor for 40 minutes if it were realistic.
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And sometimes those guys develop and unlock more creation... so I'm all good if we went that route. He may not be an all-star in the traditional sense but he could have all star impact like Holiday or some of those types.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
This draft is ELITE for PGs, to say otherwise you got to be high on gas. Scoot and Amen could be elite. Cason and NSJ have all star upside. If you want to consider Black a PG that's another high upside guy. Terquavion Smith has shown a big jump in playmaking so you have to consider him a PG now too, and he has starter upside. Marcus Sasser is a good upperclassmen even though he's not having as good of a stats season as most expected.
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I said "outside the top 5 or 6," referring to Scoot and the Thompsons. I don't think Cason Wallace has All Star upside right now. He's not advanced enough offensively. I'm lower on him than some here. NSJ has some All Star upside, but I think it's fairly unlikely when you consider how amazing the real All Star guards currently are. NSJ hasn't shown he's a threat to get all the way to the rim. Terquavion Smith still projects to be more of a bench leader, imo, simply because he doesn't have a complete enough game right now. Sasser will get drafted and be rotational.

Anthony Black and Keyonte George are less conventional options to consider, especially if the Jazz don't want to rely on a ball-dominant guard and play more through a dynamic wing. Black needs to show he can shoot consistently, while his shooting motion limits him off the dribble. Keyonte is someone who *could* play PG and provide offensive punch from that position even though he isn't a natural floor general.

The strength of this draft is wings: Thompsons, Cam, GG, Br. Miller, Hendricks, Walker, Dick, Ba. Miller, Walsh, Murray, Lewis, etc.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
I said "outside the top 5 or 6," referring to Scoot and the Thompsons. I don't think Cason Wallace has All Star upside right now. He's not advanced enough offensively. I'm lower on him than some here. NSJ has some All Star upside, but I think it's fairly unlikely when you consider how amazing the real All Star guards currently are. NSJ hasn't shown he's a threat to get all the way to the rim. Terquavion Smith still projects to be more of a bench leader, imo, simply because he doesn't have a complete enough game right now. Sasser will get drafted and be rotational.

Anthony Black and Keyonte George are less conventional options to consider, especially if the Jazz don't want to rely on a ball-dominant guard and play more through a dynamic wing. Black needs to show he can shoot consistently, while his shooting motion limits him off the dribble. Keyonte is someone who *could* play PG and provide offensive punch from that position even though he isn't a natural floor general.

The strength of this draft is wings: Thompsons, Cam, GG, Br. Miller, Hendricks, Walker, Dick, Ba. Miller, Walsh, Murray, etc.
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How is Terqu's game not complete?

And this draft is strong everywhere besides center. Just because it's a strong wing draft doesnt mean it's not a strong PG draft. It's a strong PG draft.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I dont think you've watched him play basketball this year.
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I can certainly watch him more, but my comments have been valid when I have watched him. He'll probably get picked in the mid-teens to early-20s range and be slated to be a team's third guard depending on where he goes. I'll watch him some more, and if my opinion changes I'll post about it here.

Sasser would be a pretty solid pick in the 20s of this draft, imo, and he could play either backcourt spot. He wouldn't change the direction of the franchise, but he'd be a nice player.
 
I'm tired of the Jazz getting outrebounded every game. Please bring us some length/athleticism in this draft Danny Ainge.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
What? We had 11 more offensive rebounds than them. We just missed 56 shots tonight. Rebounds weren't the problem tonight.
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Looking at the boxscore we got outrebounded 44-35 and that's even with Dok getting in and grabbing 4 in the last few minutes of the game.
The Jazz have been getting outrebounded and giving up way too many 2nd chance points every game.
They actually rank dead last in the entire NBA when it comes to controlling the defensive glass.
 
HeatCheck said:
Looking at the boxscore we got outrebounded 44-35 and that's even with Dok getting in and grabbing 4 in the last few minutes of the game.
The Jazz have been getting outrebounded and giving up way too many 2nd chance points every game.
They actually rank dead last in the entire NBA when it comes to controlling the defensive glass.
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How they supposed to grab rebounds if the Cavs shoot 60%?
 
HeatCheck said:
Looking at the boxscore we got outrebounded 44-35 and that's even with Dok getting in and grabbing 4 in the last few minutes of the game.
The Jazz have been getting outrebounded and giving up way too many 2nd chance points every game.
They actually rank dead last in the entire NBA when it comes to controlling the defensive glass.
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Right, but we only gave up 4 offensive rebounds tonight. They outrebounded us because they had so many more defensive rebounding opportunities than us. Rebounding wasn't our problem tonight.
 
It's not just this game. It's been an ongoing issue this entire season. They don't control the defensive glass and give up way too many 2nd chance points.
 
the jazz are about middle of the road in rebound differential - so this is a case where everybody can be right. are they a horrible rebounding team? no. is there room for improvement? absolutely.
 
HeatCheck said:
I'm tired of the Jazz getting outrebounded every game. Please bring us some length/athleticism in this draft Danny Ainge.
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Teams often outrebound the Jazz from the guard and wing positions. It's not our bigs, necessarily. Mike Conley doesn't rebound or box out very often. Clarkson doesn't do it consistently. If you look at the Bucks game the other night, most of their guards and wings had at least 4 rebs. each.

Some of our guys naturally go to the boards and some of them don't. It's also notable that Rudy Gay isn't rebounding as well as he did last year.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Big Board Heading into Conference Play: Quick board, probably forgot someone.

1. Victor
2. Scoot
3. Amen Thompson
4. Cam Whitmore
5. Ausar Thompson
6. Nick Smith Jr
7. Brandon Miller
8. Anthony Black
9. Cason Wallace
10. Taylor Hendricks
11. GG Jackson
12. Gradey Dick
13. Jett Howard
14. Maxwell Lewis
15. Jarace Walker
16. Keyonte George
17. Baba Miller
18. Dariq Whitehead
19. Kyle Filipowski
20. Terence Shannon Jr
21. Jordan Walsh
22. Coleman Hawkins
23. Terquavion Smith
24. Dillon Mitchell
25. Julian Philips
26. Trevon Brazile
27. Donovan Clingan
28. Noah Clowney
29. Kris Murray
30. Tucker Devries
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View: https://twitter.com/MavsDraft/status/1605671925304332288


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