Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[Handlogten's Heros]

Fun fact: They are still discussing it... albeit now in a past tense "why didnt we take that offer".

Some here offer Gay and THT for Collins. Tbf, its almost equally ridiculous.

Its ridiculous in the sense that they should be able to do better for Collins but I also get it based on how some view JC as a fit. Like "if they want this garbage offer they can have it". Its not like those people are the JC advocates.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I do wonder if new ownership in Phoenix means they open up the purse strings and would do a Collins deal now. Crowder and Saric or Shamet for JC... Atlanta gets some draft comp prolly.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Its ridiculous in the sense that they should be able to do better for Collins but I also get it based on how some view JC as a fit. Like "if they want this garbage offer they can have it". Its not like those people are the JC advocates.

What’s the point of even discussing garbage offers like that though?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

What’s the point of even discussing garbage offers like that though?

There is none... its just someone saying something to show how little they like a player... not like they are being serious and pushing for that deal.

When doing the trade stuff this offseason I found Hawks fans and podcasters to be among the most unreasonable and homerish.

 

[Elizah Huge]

There is none... its just someone saying something to show how little they like a player... not like they are being serious and pushing for that deal.

When doing the trade stuff this offseason I found Hawks fans and podcasters to be among the most unreasonable and homerish.

True on both points.

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

Just read a fansided cavs trade that proposes the cavs trade

Okoro
Osman
Maybe a 2nd rounder

For

Beasley

I would figure bolmaro would be added for roster spots.

I like the trade but what do you all think?

 

[HeatCheck]

Just read a fansided cavs trade that proposes the cavs trade

Okoro
Osman
Maybe a 2nd rounder

For

Beasley

I would figure bolmaro would be added for roster spots.

I like the trade but what do you all think?

I think Ainge could get more for Beasley.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Just read a fansided cavs trade that proposes the cavs trade

Okoro
Osman
Maybe a 2nd rounder

For

Beasley

I would figure bolmaro would be added for roster spots.

I like the trade but what do you all think?

Pass

 

[Coach Ellis]

Naz Reid is a guy to inquire about with Minny once KAT is back... In FA we might be able to swipe him for the MLE. Might provide the stretch 5 with some rim protection we want. Last few games have been awesome. Kind of a perfect 3rd big that gives some of what we love from KO without the sacrifices on defense.

Shoulda just gotten him instead of Bolmaro in the original trade. Nobody would’ve blinked and he’d have been awesome on this team.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Shoulda just gotten him instead of Bolmaro in the original trade. Nobody would’ve blinked and he’d have been awesome on this team.

I’m sure they wanted to keep him but not sure it would have been a deal breaker. I won’t register any complaints on that deal though… we got the damn bag.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

On John Collins… I just don’t see where they get an awesome offer. The teams mentioned just don’t have great offers that meet Atlantas win now mentality. The cap situation there is going to be a mess if they don’t move Collins or Bogey.

If we really are interested I’d push them all the way to the deadline unless they caved for a terrible offer.

 

[Bodhi]

Jazz in: John Collins/2023 Phoenix 1st
Jazz out: Jarred Vanderbilt/Kelly Olynyk/Rudy Gay

Suns in: Jarred Vanderbilt/Rudy Gay
Suns out: Jae Crowder/2023 1st

Hawks in: Jae Crowder/Kelly Olynyk
Hawks out: John Collins

Salary is about as close to matching as you’ll ever get in a three-team deal. Thoughts?

One of the better, if not the best Collins trades I’ve seen that makes sense for all teams.

The common thought is PHX would balk at the FRP……but they shouldn’t.

 

[David Hume]

There is none... its just someone saying something to show how little they like a player... not like they are being serious and pushing for that deal.

When doing the trade stuff this offseason I found Hawks fans and podcasters to be among the most unreasonable and homerish.

I just read a Hawks fan on Real GM saying he’d be fine trading Trae Young for SGA and a 1st round pick.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I just read a Hawks fan on Real GM saying he’d be fine trading Trae Young for SGA and a 1st round pick.

OKC wouldn't make that trade even if the pick were going the other way.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

OKC wouldn't make that trade even if the pick were going the other way.

Exactly. Trae may well be the most overrated NBA player currently.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

I just read a Hawks fan on Real GM saying he’d be fine trading Trae Young for SGA and a 1st round pick.

OKC wouldn't make that trade even if the pick were going the other way.

Exactly. Trae may well be the most overrated NBA player currently.

He’s not overrated. He’s struggling a little this year. But he’s had some killer good years. SGA might be a little overrated on this board. Lol

 

[Udidthizz]

He’s not overrated. He’s struggling a little this year. But he’s had some killer good years. SGA might be a little overrated on this board. Lol

He certainly puts up the numbers. But I have doubts about his ability to consistently play winning basketball and his attitude. Combined with awful defense, I can understand the general sentiment that there may not be many takers for him.

 

[Elizah Huge]

He’s not overrated. He’s struggling a little this year. But he’s had some killer good years. SGA might be a little overrated on this board. Lol

I’m convinced you don’t watch or know much about basketball.

 

[Bodhi]

SGA is the better player today vs Trae. Lol. ***** wild out in these streets.

 

[HermanG]

Exactly. Trae may well be the most overrated NBA player currently.

He is only overrated in Atlanta. They been pouring copium to the drinking water.

Morten Jensen and Bryan Toporek discussed him the other day, and gave him some harsh criticism including this snippet:

“I’ve spoken to a few people around the league,” said Morten Jensen on ‘The NBA Podcast’, “and the sense that I’m getting – or what I’m also being told outright – is that nobody likes him. Like, even external players outside of the Hawks are not interested in playing with him. There is basically this sense that Trae is what you call a ‘selfish unselfish’ passer.”

Also discussed his diminishing usage of John Collins. Summary at Fansided:

Analyst delivers scathing report on Atlanta Hawks star

How does one get put on blast on their day off? Atlanta Hawks star Trae Young found out with a very unflattering report on how he is perceived around the l...

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