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Lauri Markkanen Hype & Appreciation Thread

fishonjazz said:
From what im reading we made the trade prior to eurobasket so that doesnt really make sense.


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And I knew this lmao... I blame sleep deprivation for this mistake... There was though some World Cup qualifiers matches before Euros... but i doubt that sample did nothing more than confirmed for DA it might be a good idea to hard-ball them to give Lauri in the trade.
 
In Hindsight and by Lauri's own statements it is more likely so that he started to become Lauri he is now in part because he got traded to Utah just before his first EuroBasket game. There was extra motivation for him to make a showcase, and trade itself could've been kind a reason for playing like he did, at least psychologically. No doubt, initially it was likely kind of shock in given circumstances (Family just bought a house in Cleveland, hearing about trade in a tournament trip etc.), but it played out well after all.

Then when Hardy asked to him to 'play like you did in EuroBasket'... Well, by eye test and by stats, he is doing just that. Steadily and increasingly more so. He was probably in best physical and mental condition ever during his career when he started the season for Jazz, and certainly is now.
 
fishonjazz said:
Plus if cleveland saw this level of play coming from markennan then they wouldnt have included a bunch of picks and sexton and ochai in the deal.
Hell they probably would have kept markennan and gave us garland or mobley or something instead.

Lauri would look pretty sweet with donovan.

Also how dumb would ainge have had to be if he knew how good Lauri would be and waited so long into the off season to acquire him along with everything else we got.
What if a different team would have known that lauri was available for trade and swooped in and got to him first? That would have sucked.


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As I said earlier, Ainge obviously didn't know back then that Lauri would quickly turn into this. Nobody did. But I'm sure he saw major untapped potential... that's why he's DA. Hell, it's not like Lauri was an unknown quantity. He made the All Rookie First Team and averaged damn near 20/10 in his second season. Back then he did look like a future All Star. My guess is that Danny had him penciled in as a building block.

For Utah, I'd say the main priorities in the deal were picks and Lauri. They were buying low on Sexton, who couldn't be guaranteed to ever regain his athleticism and wasn't going to be returning to his former top dog role anyway. Ainge brought him in as a future bench player or trade asset (if it turned out his knee healed well). Ochai was a total throw-in, the Cavs had no use for him with Mitchell coming in. He wasn't gonna get any minutes there.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Dude… Markkanen didn’t play a single EuroBasket game until after he was traded.
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He played quite a few World Cup qualifier matches during the summer already, and led Finland to be the *first* European country to qualify. Yes, that Finland which had never before got through from the qualifiers. From the same qualifying group as Slovenia, Germany et al.

His EuroCup performance was just a continuation to that performance level. I'm pretty sure Danny Ainge was well aware of what was going on before making the deal.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
As I said earlier, Ainge obviously didn't know back then that Lauri would quickly turn into this. Nobody did. But I'm sure he saw major untapped potential... that's why he's DA. Hell, it's not like Lauri was an unknown quantity. He made the All Rookie First Team and averaged damn near 20/10 in his second season. Back then he did look like a future All Star. My guess is that Danny had him penciled in as a building block.

For Utah, I'd say the main priorities in the deal were picks and Lauri. They were buying low on Sexton, who couldn't be guaranteed to ever regain his athleticism and wasn't going to be returning to his former top dog role anyway. Ainge brought him in as a future bench player or trade asset (if it turned out his knee healed well). Ochai was a total throw-in, the Cavs had no use for him with Mitchell coming in. He wasn't gonna get any minutes there.
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Fair enough. Makes sense


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Eddie Zero said:
Fiba started the day he was traded this past fall. I said Summer. but nice try
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So let me get this straight… you think Ainge knew Markkanen would improve so much into an all-star based off of a couple of qualifying games during the summer?
 
Elizah Huge said:
So let me get this straight… you think Ainge knew Markkanen would improve so much into an all-star based off of a couple of qualifying games during the summer?
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if you are not involved in the game enough to hear the voices of how well he was playing ALL SUMMER , then you are like the rest of us. Ainge however has ears and eyes everywhere.
No way he didn't see what he was capable of before the trade, and then for the Finnisher to dominate the Euro play in the following week was just **** on a platterpuss
 
Eddie Zero said:
if you are not involved in the game enough to hear the voices of how well he was playing ALL SUMMER , then you are like the rest of us. Ainge however has ears and eyes everywhere.
No way he didn't see what he was capable of before the trade, and then for the Finnisher to dominate the Euro play i the following week was just **** on a platterpuss
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Lol… why didn’t he try to trade for Markkanen without trading Mitchell then? I’m sure Cleveland would have taken a couple picks for him.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Lol… why didn’t he try to trade for Markkanen without trading Mitchell then? I’m sure Cleveland would have taken a couple picks for him.
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CLE clearly valued Don as a first option way more than keeping the FInnisher in a 3rd option role behind their recently maxed Garland and top 3 pick Mobley?
Like I said Ainge owned the Cavs in this deal
 
Eddie Zero said:
CLE clearly valued Don as a first option way more than keeping the FInnisher in a 3rd option role behind their recently maxed Garland and top 3 pick Mobley?
Like I said Ainge owned the Cavs in this deal
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We all know Ainge owned Cleveland in the deal. That’s not what we’re debating. Nobody knew Markkanen would be this good for us when the deal happened. After the trade and his EuroBasket games a lot of us were buzzing and hyping him up. I mentioned he could flirt with being a 20/10 player this year. Nobody thought he’d be trending towards 25/9 on unbelievable efficiency.
 
Elizah Huge said:
We all know Ainge owned Cleveland in the deal. That’s not what we’re debating. Nobody knew Markkanen would be this good for us when the deal happened. After the trade and his EuroBasket games a lot of us were buzzing and hyping him up. I mentioned he could flirt with being a 20/10 player this year. Nobody thought he’d be trending towards 25/9 on unbelievable efficiency.
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Nobody on here saw him as a first option either did they. He did that exact thing overseas confirming what Danny envisioned before the trade. It is common knowledge now that he saw Marky as the main player coming back , only you apparently choose to believe he just got lucky the Finnisher has outperformed expectations. He showed flashes of this level of play in Cleveland last season, but never NEVER had the kind of usage or plays set up for him Hardy is running for him.
I give him a solid shot at maintaining this level of play the rest of the season, but don't be surprised if he gets into the Allstar game, every team in the league puts a massive X on his number and his 2nd half of the season is far less impressive.
 
KqWIN said:
I think there was a lot of potential to get him at different times....maybe he wouldn't have blossomed the same way, but I think he would have been great next to Mitchell. He's a second action type of guy. Just based on his interviews and past (Boylen victim) I think what he needed most was the confidence.
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He would’ve been even better next to Gobert and Mitchell
 
Eddie Zero said:
Nobody on here saw him as a first option either did they. He did that exact thing overseas confirming what Danny envisioned before the trade. It is common knowledge now that he saw Marky as the main player coming back , only you apparently choose to believe he just got lucky the Finnisher has outperformed expectations. He showed flashes of this level of play in Cleveland last season, but never NEVER had the kind of usage or plays set up for him Hardy is running for him.
I give him a solid shot at maintaining this level of play the rest of the season, but don't be surprised if he gets into the Allstar game, every team in the league puts a massive X on his number and his 2nd half of the season is far less impressive.
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I’m not entertaining you anymore. You’re making up arguments that aren’t there.

Lauri is a mother****ing beast and in my opinion is a top-15 player in the league.
 
Elizah Huge said:
I’m not entertaining you anymore. You’re making up arguments that aren’t there.

Lauri is a mother****ing beast and in my opinion is a top-15 player in the league.
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He has been awesome but top 15 in the league is the most homer take on him I have heard.
If we can get a legit 1st option guard to play with him and the pairing can confuse defenses for Hardy. We might win a chip with him.
You act like he is so great already that we will without that other allstar. He isn't in the top tier yet and tbh probably won't ever be.
But if you look at the number of true 7 foot tall 3-4's in the NBA there are not many that shoot as well from the outer rings
 
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