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Jingled said:
Not much new from Andy Larsen's interview on ESPN700. Said the Jazz value Beasley's shooting but aren't thrilled with the rest of his game, mainly his defense and shot selection. Said they've also been a little disappointed in Sexton but didn't really elaborate on what parts of his game they've been disappointed with. They would move Mike if the right opportunity comes along.

Said they won't make a trade to make them better this season unless it also makes them better in the future, like John Collins or Dorian Finney Smith. Said having a primary ball handling defender that can also shoot 40% from 3 would be very valuable on the championship contending team the Jazz hope to be in the future.
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Good thing they didnt elaborate, got to keep his trade value high
 
Elizah Huge said:
I’d rather have stats back up what I see rather than dismissing stats because it doesn’t match what I see.
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That is an excellent description of the confirmation bias to which the poster responded. In many ways, it's better to be proven wrong, because you learn more.
 
Jingled said:
Not much new from Andy Larsen's interview on ESPN700. Said the Jazz value Beasley's shooting but aren't thrilled with the rest of his game, mainly his defense and shot selection. Said they've also been a little disappointed in Sexton but didn't really elaborate on what parts of his game they've been disappointed with. They would move Mike if the right opportunity comes along.

Said they won't make a trade to make them better this season unless it also makes them better in the future, like John Collins or Dorian Finney Smith. Said having a primary ball handling defender that can also shoot 40% from 3 would be very valuable on the championship contending team the Jazz hope to be in the future.
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Crazy that this team is down on Sexton but so high on Clarkson.
 
idiot said:
Covington is apparently available to play today. No immediate Covington for Conley incoming.
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Jazz probably not doing anything until we find out what the Raps are doing. I suspect nothing happens with the Raps and we sell to panicked buyers at the deadline.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I don't think they'd move Mann. I still think its Kennard and expirings plus one of Boston/Preston... and honestly if we don't get the Philly Clips pick swap I'll be pissed.

I think my ideal trade deadline is Mike goes to Clips for Kennard, pick swap, expiring....Beasley goes to Memphis for the worse of the two firsts they own in 2024 (GS or their own) and Danny Green (plus whatever player they want to throw in to match salary).

You get a shooter and maximize pick value that way since it increases the value of the worst 2023 pick we have and gives us a pick in a draft we currently don't have one in. I think its realistic. Throw in a Vando deal if you want somewhere or just keep him.
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I love both of those trades and would love to keep vando. Just thinking out loud but trading conley (a pass first player) might make Vando a little more valuable to us simply as a guy who doesnt look to score.


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fishonjazz said:
If the point is just for the point guard to get lots of assists then you are right that the talent level for that isnt fine.
If the point is just to win and play better than the opponent as a team then the talent level is fine.

@Eliza Huge often post stats showing our best lineups. Sexton is in a **** ton of them. Even more than conley. Man sexton played good as a starter this year. It was awesome.


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The talent level is good enough to be average, especially when you realize that Conley is not long for here. If they actually want to consistently win, they need better talent at the position.
 
I agree with all of you sfor some part and disagree for others.

Because we can have example on bith side :

- some teams are very good without a good passing guy ( Boston, bucks....)
- Some team are very good with a conductor ( Denver, Memphis, Phoenix....).

The point is to get more quality that we currently don't have. We need a better defender and another good wing ( best if he is also a good defender).

Mike is old, unless we plan to win next year, he is not part of the future. And i fdo not think that JC or Colin are good enough ( tunel vision, defense...). So we need an udgrade on this position as well.
 
I watched Bones tonight… if you think Hardy ain’t got the patience for Sexton… boy I’ll tell ya Bones may not make it through a practice.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I watched Bones tonight… if you think Hardy ain’t got the patience for Sexton… boy I’ll tell ya Bones may not make it through a practice.
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Nah, look at advanced stats, unless advanced stats don’t prove your point, in which case use the eye test.

Use the one that proves your point and discount the other.


Or parts of each.


Under no circumstances, change your mind. Show no weakness.
 
Bodhi said:
Nah, look at advanced stats, unless advanced stats don’t prove your point, in which case use the eye test.

Use the one that proves your point and discount the other.

Or parts of each.

Under no circumstances, change your mind. Show no weakness.
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LOL
 
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