Coach Ellis
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I’m still high on the idea of trading for Westbrook just to clear out a crap ton of space for next year’s trade deadline.
From Tim MacMahon’s article that just dropped on ESPN this morning.
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Ahead of trade deadline, focused Jazz remind 'it's our job to listen'
Utah's priority is to build a contender for years to come, but can it do so straddling the playoff line and also stocked with picks and flexibility?www.espn.com
I guess he can wait until he is past his prime at this point? No sense in forfeiting his next contract doing a mandatory service that doesn't actually require anything from him besides time anyway no?The Finns have the highest % of the population willing to defend the country whatever it takes in Europe (perhaps the world). I'm pretty sure Lauri is no different. But the military service for top athletes is just basic boot camp, shooting practice etc. The only con is that it takes up time, six months - which doesn't fit into any NBA players' schedule. (That's why almost all the future pros try to get it of the way right when they hit 18)
Conley, Beasley, stuff for Westbrook and 2 picks (doubt we get two picks)That is a long-*** MacMahon article. What are the trades?
It’s on the webz so it’s as good as true. Pull the trigger.Conley, Beasley, stuff for Westbrook and 2 picks (doubt we get two picks)
Beasley/Vando for Fournier Toppin and a pick or picks - My guess is if it is picks plural it is Det and Was protected picks. If it is one pick I'd bet its Ny or Dallas pick this year... and we might move one of our other picks on draft night or do a move up deal.
I would do the Westbrook one if we could only do one deal. Its the tank maneuver... the league won't complain cuz it helps bron and the Lakers be competitive... Hell the league office might kick in a compensatory pick for being team players.
He has to get it sorted, one way or another, before he turns 30. "No exceptions" is kinda the point. No "bone spurs" or "I'm rich". 70 % of men do military service, most of the rest a sort of civil service (which is twice as long) - and more and more women do military service voluntarily (for practically no pay).I guess he can wait until he is past his prime at this point? No sense in forfeiting his next contract doing a mandatory service that doesn't actually require anything from him besides time anyway no?
I am kind of surprised Finns don't offer exceptions for high profile individuals that represent their country in different ways. Not even counting the obvious ability to be recognizable,he would stand out like a sore thumb if he actually had to join the front in any kind of skirmish let alone war. I guess he will just be carted around like a hero to motivate the rest?
I mean Tim literally sat down with Danny/JZ/Ryan... I think you can take those things to the bank.It’s on the webz so it’s as good as true. Pull the trigger.
I believe the Clips have interest in Mike as a backup plan if they cannot get FVV.I mean Tim literally sat down with Danny/JZ/Ryan... I think you can take those things to the bank.
I think we have the Lakers deal as the big fish and several other smaller deals setup if it falls through. Clips should really be going hard after Mike... haven't heard much there so maybe its dead or very serious. Clips usually come out of nowhere on this stuff.
I’m not sure they’d give up a first. Maybe Danny likes Kennard but I’m guessing their good stuff is off the table… would love to be surprised. Could do a swap in 2027 or 2029 with any of the picks we own though and I might be down for that and expiring salary.I believe the Clips have interest in Mike as a backup plan if they cannot get FVV.
Just not with the Lakers right??? Right?!?!Beasley and Conley for 2FRP to LA would work. I hope Mike wins a title before he retires.
has 4 years left hmmm maybe if the Jazz do trade off vets and lose a bunch of games after the break. He can just hop on a jet, and the Jazz can end the season without him. He could then get it done over the summer no?He has to get it sorted, one way or another, before he turns 30. "No exceptions" is kinda the point. No "bone spurs" or "I'm rich". 70 % of men do military service, most of the rest a sort of civil service (which is twice as long) - and more and more women do military service voluntarily (for practically no pay).
IF (and that's not gonna happen) there would be any type of conflict, I'm sure Lauri (or any such individual) would not be called up to serve in any military capacity. Instead the expectation would be he'd be lobbying Washington for billions in aid, just like the Ukrainians are now.
Looking at past years, there's been like 4-5 future NHL players each year that have got it sorted at the first chance. But the NBA obviously works differently and Lauri couldn't afford to spend another year in Finland. The NHL picks everyone at 18 and then sign them a year, two, three after that from Europe.
You have to add either Clarkson or Olynyk to make the money work.Beasley and Conley for 2FRP to LA would work. I hope Mike wins a title before he retires.
Nah, this year is out. I think in the end the authorities will bend over backwards to accomodate him some way. Maybe summer 2025 and he'll get credit for 90 days for representing Finland at EuroBasket with Finland hosting one group stage, then split the rest for summer 2026 and maybe 27. Something like that.so he only
has 4 years left hmmm maybe if the Jazz do trade off vets and lose a bunch of games after the break. He can just hop on a jet, and the Jazz can end the season without him. He could then get it done over the summer no?
You can get there with Gay and Doke too... I keep saying thatYou have to add either Clarkson or Olynyk to make the money work.
Or Gay, or Vando, or NAW.You have to add either Clarkson or Olynyk to make the money work.
rock onNah, this year is out. I think in the end the authorities will bend over backwards to accomodate him some way. Maybe summer 2025 and he'll get credit for 90 days for representing Finland at EuroBasket with Finland hosting one group stage, then split the rest for summer 2026 and maybe 27. Something like that.