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Did Raja Bell blackmail the whole Jazz front office

Doc Cherno said:
I don't know that Burkes is ready to lead us to the promised land (or even two wins in a row),
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Is anyone really looking for that from Burk(e)s? How about a little bit of offensive production (plus minimal defensive stability) at the 2?

but even though I've long been a Jefferson supporter (like Memo, he's a good guy with some skills),
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Wow--you are really selling your credibility with that statement ...

I think it is obvious we need to find someone to take Bell off our hands for a legit (not expecting an all-star here) 2 guard, and I'm assuming only a Jefferson deal would get that done. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing if Rondo is still a possibility after the start we've had, but we're not winning 30% with this crew.
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Rondo would be swell--except he's not a 2 guard (I guess you changed the subject), and he is quite expensive for a guard ($13 million in 2014).
 
billyshelby said:
Anyone see the Locke twitter: "Raja and Manu really battling" Hilarious.
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Yeah 23-0. Almost Ali - Frazier like.

In all seriousness, Bell is just done. His shot is so flat you can tell the second it leaves his hands it has no chance of going in. When he comes off curls he doesn't even want to shoot it. He doesn't have the legs anymore to stop on a dime and get up a good shot.

On defense, he can't fight through screens like he used to and he's doing more grabbing than defending with his feet.

In all fairness to Corbin, he's playing him less and less each game.
 
Maybe Corbin is insane, for as Einstein said, "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
 
candrew said:
Yeah 23-0. Almost Ali - Frazier like.

In all seriousness, Bell is just done. His shot is so flat you can tell the second it leaves his hands it has no chance of going in. When he comes off curls he doesn't even want to shoot it. He doesn't have the legs anymore to stop on a dime and get up a good shot.

On defense, he can't fight through screens like he used to and he's doing more grabbing than defending with his feet.

In all fairness to Corbin, he's playing him less and less each game.
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Yet he continues to start him and the Jazz continue to start slowly. i wonder if that has anything to do with playing 4 against 5 on offense?
 
candrew said:
Hayward spent all night in the gym Thursday, had a great game on Friday and his shot looked tired on Saturday.

Sounds like typical growing pains to me. Get used to it.

As someone mentioned earlier, he's still making other positive contributions (although he did get caught with his feet nailed to the floor a couple of times on defense last night).
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The difference is playing Sixers at home and playing Spurs away. He is to young to get tired. That what sets stars from role players, they produce on the road and raise their game vs elite competition. Hayward is no star so why are you guys surprised?
 
candrew said:
In all seriousness, Bell is just done. His shot is so flat you can tell the second it leaves his hands it has no chance of going in. When he comes off curls he doesn't even want to shoot it. He doesn't have the legs anymore to stop on a dime and get up a good shot.
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He's lost it physically? This is enough for us to hate him and hope he dies. ****ing traitor!
 
franklin said:
He's lost it physically? This is enough for us to hate him and hope he dies. ****ing traitor!
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Look our front office has shown that we aren't going to be loyal just to be loyal. They got rid of Memo and AK after all their years here. Well, Bell left us for greener pastures .... now it is time we put him out to pasture. He had his run. Don't you remember that this is a youth movement so where has Burk been?? He can't learn sitting on the bench.
 
My honest guess.

Corbin is letting Raja get his last few minutes in the league right now, 10 games from now his career is over. He simply can't do anything on the floor anymore. Can't shoot, doesn't play defense, ought to be riding pine.
 
Stats don't lie:

Raja Bell: 2.8 PPG in 19.8 MPG (11 total points). 29.4 FG% (5-17). 14.3 3PT% (1-7). 0 FT attempts. 6.7 points per 48 minutes
Alec Burks: 6.3 PPG in 6 MPG (19 total points). 61.5 FG% (8-13). 3-3 Free Throw 50.7 points per 48 minutes

Raja Bell is statistically the worst scoring SG in the NBA right now.
 
MDAV28 said:
Stats don't lie:

Raja Bell: 2.8 PPG in 19.8 MPG (11 total points). 29.4 FG% (5-17). 14.3 3PT% (1-7). 0 FT attempts. 6.7 points per 48 minutes
Alec Burks: 6.3 PPG in 6 MPG (19 total points). 61.5 FG% (8-13). 3-3 Free Throw 50.7 points per 48 minutes

Raja Bell is statistically the worst scoring SG in the NBA right now.
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Lol, that's not a good argument at all. Burks is playing against garbage SG's and Raja against top level SG's.
But I do agree that Raja Bell is probably the worst starting SG in the NBA
 
zman1527 said:
Yet he continues to start him and the Jazz continue to start slowly.
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You keep posting this, and yet the Jazz actually started out pretty well in the first three games, before falling apart. It hasn't been our starts that have been the problem, it's been the rest of the game.
 
Weezur said:
Lol, that's not a good argument at all. Burks is playing against garbage SG's and Raja against top level SG's.
But I do agree that Raja Bell is probably the worst starting SG in the NBA
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Is that what we're reduced to? Arguing whether a player is the worst in the league, or simply ONE of the worst? He should not get a single minute of PT, it's as simple as that. Burks should be getting all of his minutes, even if Burks is yet to score a single point this season.
 
Weezur said:
Lol, that's not a good argument at all. Burks is playing against garbage SG's and Raja against top level SG's.
But I do agree that Raja Bell is probably the worst starting SG in the NBA
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Read it again, I said Raja was statistically the worst scoring SG in the NBA. I understand the competition these players have faced is different, but the numbers are so completely skewed, it would be ridiculous to think that Burks would do the same or worse than Raja with his minutes. That is all I was trying to say, the stats prove the Burks can be more effective than Raja.
 
I'll be honest I would rather have Price back and starting at SG then Bell. At least Price would be noticeable the energy he brought would either hurt or help the Jazz but either way would be more entertaining then what ever it is that Bell is doing on the court. Let me recap I'm not saying I would like Price as a starting SG or that he'd be good just that he couldn't be any less productive then Bell.
 
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