Yup. Like if Ausar is a top 5% athlete Amen is top 1%.
2023 NBA Draft Megathread
- Thread starter Ferguson_Mellochill
- Start date
David Hume
Well-Known Member
I have been adjudicated to be “Punkish” by several eminent social commentators. I do not know precisely what that term means. I have listened to Public Image Limited and this other band called “The Sex Pistols.” Death Disco by PIL is very good. I am surprised that the latter group calls for “God Save the Queen” which is metaphysics, beyond what an empiricist like myself could endorse.
Fillipowski dropping out of the draft surprised me, Cam Whitmore entering the draft motivated me, for all practical purposes, he should be thy Jazz’ main target.
I think the league is going to reward the Jazz for being good citizens this year and get them in the top 4. The Jazz didn't egregiously tank, they helped the Lakers and Twolves with trades, and they gave their all during the All Star weekend. I think a big-market team in the Eastern Conference will get Wembanyama (Chicago or Washington). The Hornets will move up in the draft, but not get #1, and the Jazz will round out the top 4, either with San Antonio or Indiana. Detroit, Houston and Orlando won't get rewarded this year, since they've been in the top 4 already in recent years.
So draft order: 1) Chicago/Washington, 2) Charlotte, 3) Indiana/San Antonio, 4) Utah. Jazz will draft a Thompson.
So draft order: 1) Chicago/Washington, 2) Charlotte, 3) Indiana/San Antonio, 4) Utah. Jazz will draft a Thompson.
Last edited:
LogGrad98
Well-Known Member
Contributor
20-21 Award Winner
2022 Award Winner
2023 Award Winner
2024 Award Winner
Foucault is too low on the list, imo. Rand is appropriately placed, as is Kant. I always viewed Descartes as a little bit punk, maybe not quite punkish. Sad they missed Zeno, decidedly not punk however.
He's also been the more visionary passer, but maybe some of that is because of his role.
It could be that his role emphasized on ball athleticism. Nah...let the hype continue..lol
seattlejazzfan
Well-Known Member
yeah, not sure i agree with that having seen both. but not going to argue as it's impossible to prove one way or the other.
I mean... they're identical twins. Like, unless Ausar has had some kind of significant injury that Amen has not then their athletic ceilings are basically the same.
Maybe Amen looks more athletic because his entire game is predicated on it? I'm sorry, the comment just makes vanishingly little sense to me.
Handlogten's Heros
Well-Known Member
2019 Award Winner
20-21 Award Winner
2022 Award Winner
2023 Award Winner
2024 Award Winner
2025 Award Winner
2025 Prediction Contest Winner
He’s in the gym working and hasn’t had a chance to declare yet.
Bawse Dawg
Well-Known Member
I'm not saying Cam won't be a better player or doesn't clearly have a higher ceiling. But the odds Cam Whitmore is as good his rookie year as Ochai are not very high. It is rare for rookies to even be decent players. Giving up what you know to be a very solid young piece to move up two spots in the late lottery is not a move I'd be a fan of.
E: And a Morris twin and Delon Wright (even if he's from my alma mater) doesn't really change my thinking.
every pair of identical twins in the NBA ( in recent memory) has had some kind of level of difference in athletic ability. It's not a huge thing, but there are subtle movement differences between identical twins.
Amen's level of dexterity/nimbleness is just a notch above Ausar's. It's most noticeable on the jump stops and euro steps Amen does vs the ones Ausar does.
Ehh... I don't know. They're not literally the same people, and sure, little differences exist. Of course they do. You referred to the difference as "another level" which just doesn't make sense to me.
Duke must be angling for a center in the transfer portal. Their highest rated recruit (a 6'8 forward) just backed out after the Flip news. Doesn't really make sense for him to back out if he didn't think Duke was getting a new 5 that would keep Flip playing the 4.
Heard a rumor Daron Holmes or Hunter Dickinson might be going to Duke.
Heard a rumor Daron Holmes or Hunter Dickinson might be going to Duke.
Handlogten's Heros
Well-Known Member
2019 Award Winner
20-21 Award Winner
2022 Award Winner
2023 Award Winner
2024 Award Winner
2025 Award Winner
2025 Prediction Contest Winner
Monte morris… not a Morris twin. Just to clarify.
Also it just depends… trading good for great (if you believe it can be great) is something I’d be doing. I’m lower on Ochai than most… it’s not about two spots… it’s about the player. Sometimes you pay a premium to move up. If Whitmore is gone I am not all that interested in a trade to 7.
I'll take it.
lmfao. Get real.
Eddie Zero
Well-Known Member
If there is such a thing as karma maybe we will get the backlash having not 1 but both lottery picks in the top 4, where I will gladly eat crow a la mode . But right now we are not picking at all in the top 4 , sure as hell not because the "league" fixed it so we could get rewarded for not successfully tanking, if thats really what we were trying to do, but failed.
The truth is we really never tanked like you have to for good odds, and thats not going to get you gifted a top 4 pick unless you really think the fix is in.
The truth is we really never tanked like you have to for good odds, and thats not going to get you gifted a top 4 pick unless you really think the fix is in.