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NUMBERICA said:
Hawkins is also bad around the rim, right? Guys that have gravity at the 3-point line AND the rim have serious value in stretching/scrambling the defense. I just think Dick is a better talent with more dimension to his game. Hawkins is obviously lights out but a lot of prospects have been.
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He has some athletic pop and mashes on dudes heads. I think he struggles a bit with the non-dunk finishes but I worry less about that in college. In the nba he won't have as much traffic in the paint (played with two traditional bigs and zone defenses clog the middle). I think he will get cleaner looks when dudes chase over the top... there is just lots of Booker, Ray Allen (its Uconn), Reggie Miller, and even some Steph vibes to his game. Not saying he becomes those guys obvi... but man just the herky jerky movement shooting and motor to continue moving to relocate is just such a bitch to guard... and then you factor in everything else you have to account for on the court.

I don't think you can ever lose taking a shooter of Dick or Hawkins caliber so they will be useful either way.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Oh here we go.
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I mean, I like the guy. He's one of my top 3 at the 9th pick. But he is a bit undersized. Maybe he has grown or something, but being 6'3 in shoes with a 6'6 wingspan is pretty mediocre (not to mention this was done at a UK pro day which means there is a greater chance the numbers are actually lower). I don't know what the official measurement is for "undersized" but Wallace is close to it.

And to your Dwill point, yes, the average height of PGs has increased over the past decade so things have changed on the conversation of what is undersized at the 1.
 
Apparently Indiana won the coin flip with Wiz

Houston won with SA

Magic won with OKC

Miami/GS/Rockets are how the 18-19-20 will go.
 
Bodhi said:
Cy playing both sides on GG is elite stuff. Seriously.


Re: Locke and the draft, few “experts” seem to know less here than Locke.
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I have ever evolving draft opinions. It's hard to really have a good spacial grasp of where everyone stands in relation to each other. There are prospects I focus on and prospects I put on the back burner for later looks. I've been rethinking GG.
 
I think this draft could get pretty wild in a top 5 redraft in 5 years. Like for example I'm thinking you could see one of the top 3, Whitemore, Hawkins, Whitehead, and some 2nd rounder/undrafted guy.

I think there is enough mystery around the top of the draft and lower upside in the middle of the draft, that there are going to be a lot of guys that dissapoint/exceed their draft position.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I think this draft could get pretty wild in a top 5 redraft in 5 years. Like for example I'm thinking you could see one of the top 3, Whitemore, Hawkins, Whitehead, and some 2nd rounder/undrafted guy.

I think there is enough mystery around the top of the draft and lower upside in the middle of the draft, that there are going to be a lot of guys that dissapoint/exceed their draft position.
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If Hawkins is top 5 it's because a lot of players busted and the draft was terrible
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I mean, I like the guy. He's one of my top 3 at the 9th pick. But he is a bit undersized. Maybe he has grown or something, but being 6'3 in shoes with a 6'6 wingspan is pretty mediocre (not to mention this was done at a UK pro day which means there is a greater chance the numbers are actually lower). I don't know what the official measurement is for "undersized" but Wallace is close to it.

And to your Dwill point, yes, the average height of PGs has increased over the past decade so things have changed on the conversation of what is undersized at the 1.
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6’3.25 is definitely not undersized. That is probably the average height for PG’s in the league right now.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I want to put Bilal higher... but just not quite enough draft internet nerd hype yet. I would be happy if we took him somewhere though.
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He has a few games left in the season and is playing well for the senior team next to Wemby.....obviously a lot of eyes on those games. I think he rises as the draft gets closer. If he shows up to the combine he's likely going to get a boost, might have to take him at #9.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I mean, I like the guy. He's one of my top 3 at the 9th pick. But he is a bit undersized. Maybe he has grown or something, but being 6'3 in shoes with a 6'6 wingspan is pretty mediocre (not to mention this was done at a UK pro day which means there is a greater chance the numbers are actually lower). I don't know what the official measurement is for "undersized" but Wallace is close to it.

And to your Dwill point, yes, the average height of PGs has increased over the past decade so things have changed on the conversation of what is undersized at the 1.
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So would D-Will be average size or undersized? I might be arguing a semantic point, but in my mind 6' 3" is at least average for a PG with room to be big depending on strength and length.

If someone wants to say that Wallace's size is sub-optimal, I won't quibble with that. The idea that he is UNDERsized is wild to me.
 
KqWIN said:
He has a few games left in the season and is playing well for the senior team next to Wemby.....obviously a lot of eyes on those games. I think he rises as the draft gets closer. If he shows up to the combine he's likely going to get a boost, might have to take him at #9.
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#9 is too wild... hell #16 is pretty wild... but I could see it maybe.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
#9 is too wild... hell #16 is pretty wild... but I could see it maybe.
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I know that there’s a lot of “consensus” guys who should be there at 16, but I’m hoping the Jazz are in a position to take a shot on one of GG Jackson, Sidy Cissoko or Bilal Coulibaly at that spot. I just love the potential for all three guys to hit, and I think Hardy and Co., could do wonders with a guy that has any of their athletic profiles.
 
I mean, I could it see possibly at 16 but not at 9. But definitely at 28 as a draft and stash. However, I'd trade 16 and 28 to move up into the lottery.
 
ONE LOVE said:
9th is like the worst place to be.

Black can’t shoot.
Cason undersized
Dick low ceiling

I just hope we can trade up.
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In what world is Cason undersized. He is probably minimum of 6'2" which is solid size for a pg.
 
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