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Elizah Huge said:
JHS and Brunson couldn’t be more opposite as prospects.
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What's polar opposite? I definitely think they get their's in bit different ways, but they arent that dissimilar.

Both are pretty average athletes by NBA standards who use craft and skilled off the dribble shooting to do their damage. Jamal is a bit more 3pt based and Brunson mixes in more post stuff, but a lot of that is because of the context of their team and Brunson's game has expanded to more 3pt volume since going to New York.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Without an obvious star on the board, the Jazz could value Dick's sure-thing shooting and look to mirror the Miami Heat's success by loading up on shot-making. Utah could be drawn to the strategy of building with the firepower/spacing provided by Dick and Lauri Markkanen alongside Walker Kessler's offensive efficiency and rim protection.
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I'm still not a huge fan of taking Dick at 9, but I have to admit this roster building strategy does kind of intrigue me.
 
Jingled said:
I'm still not a huge fan of taking Dick at 9, but I have to admit this roster building strategy does kind of intrigue me.
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Here's a funny idea: get Grady and Hawkins then just sign Russell Westbrook off the scrap heap.

(Maybe Russ looks like an MVP candidate for a while on a roster perfectly constructed for him, then maybe you can flip him.)
 
RandyForRubio said:
There was only one realistic option in what Cy said as far as who “they” could be.
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No idea what this is in reference to, sorry.
I think i made that post like a week or 2 ago. This thread moves fast.

Since my post you quoted said he didnt answer my question and we are talking about cy I will assume that he didnt answer my question even though it would have been easy for him to. It would seem that you know the answer to my question (whatever it was) as well, yet also didnt answer it. I find that weird. When someone asks me a question I just answer it.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
There's a lot to like about Dick. Had a pretty good freshman year at Kansas, a place where not many freshman perform well.
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He doesn't get enough credit for being as complete as he is. Korver with some glue-guy ability.

He's kinda the anti-Jett. They're comparable shooters, but Jett has on-ball chops but is kind of a black hole and sucks at all the connecting parts while Dick doesn't get enough credit for his IQ, passing/vision, transition play, and hustle but has real questions about his on-ball ability. This is obviously a tangent, off-the-cuff thought.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
What's polar opposite? I definitely think they get their's in bit different ways, but they arent that dissimilar.

Both are pretty average athletes by NBA standards who use craft and skilled off the dribble shooting to do their damage. Jamal is a bit more 3pt based and Brunson mixes in more post stuff, but a lot of that is because of the context of their team and Brunson's game has expanded to more 3pt volume since going to New York.
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JHS has like 3 inches on Brunson and Brunson was way more efficient in every area as a freshman. Brunson also didn’t declare until he was a junior. Not really similar at all.
 
NUMBERICA said:
He's kinda the anti-Jett. They're comparable shooters, but Jett has on-ball chops and is kind of a black hole and sucks at all the connecting parts while Dick doesn't get enough credit for his IQ, passing/vision, transition play, and hustle but has real questions about his on-ball ability.
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Jett Howard isnt a blackhole. He's a pretty good playmaker. Howard had 11.4 attempts per game with 2 APG. Dick had 10.9 shots w/ 1.7 APG.
 
Jingled said:
I'm still not a huge fan of taking Dick at 9, but I have to admit this roster building strategy does kind of intrigue me.
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I would be fine taking Dick I just think we could trade down from 9 to like 11 or 12 to get him if he was our guy.
 
Elizah Huge said:
JHS has like 3 inches on Brunson and Brunson was way more efficient in every area as a freshman. Brunson also didn’t declare until he was a junior. Not really similar at all.
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They are just saying their overall holistic games, not comparing their freshman seasons/size/efficiency.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Jett Howard isnt a blackhole. He's a pretty good playmaker. Howard had 11.4 attempts per game with 2 APG. Dick had 10.9 shots w/ 1.7 APG.
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But Jett's usage rate or at least time of possession has got to be quite a bit higher, right? I guess I can find that myself.

EDIT: I don't know where to find something that measures how much the ball is in one person's hand versus another (or something like touches), but Jett has a usage rate 3% higher. I don't really know how to contextualize that. There have got to be better measures of how much the ball moves or sticks than assists but I'm not going to do a deep dive on that.
 
I do think DIck has better intangibles than Howard, but Howard's ball in hand ability and playmaking ability is higher. Dick is more a quick decision maker, get off the ball type. I wouldnt say that makes Howard selfish though.

Both will have to expand their overall games if they want to achieve their highest level, but I wouldn't say they are the antithesis of each other.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I do think DIck has better intangibles than Howard, but Howard's ball in hand ability and playmaking ability is higher. Dick is more a quick decision maker, get off the ball type. I wouldnt say that makes Howard selfish though.

Both will have to expand their overall games if they want to achieve their highest level, but I wouldn't say they are the antithesis of each other.
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Just saying that in many conceptions of what is opposite (or "bizarro"), you actually need to be similar in some meaningful respects. Think being on opposite side of a spectrum.

Anyway, just riffing.
 
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