His body cannot handle the NBA schedule. It is what it is.
2023 NBA Draft Megathread
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His body cannot handle the NBA schedule. It is what it is.
I would sign him without hesitation.
Protected 1-10 in 2024
Protected 1-10 in 2025
Protected 1-8 in 2026
Otherwise becomes second round
Just watched his highlights... he looks more explosive than ever. But he keeps taking really hard falls on every poster(and there are TONS of them)...
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubjh2JsYcXQ
He's shooting in the 40s from 3... in the 50s from the floor... 85% from FT... da ***?
The Jazz Wonderbra
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Dick is 2" taller. But he is less athletic. Dick shoots the ball slightly better but Hawkins one a championship. I think they are closer than mock drafts suggest.
I love it when people make up the reason why I disagree with them lol. Does it make you feel better if you shadowbox a a made up and exaggerated argument? I don't know why people go to a forum to discuss basketball and make up the other side of the argument.
margodydek
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While watching the Finals, I thought that of all the prospects currently in the 4-15 range, that Hawkins was the player who could suit up right there and then and play some meaningful stints for both teams. I'm not sure why he isn't a lock to go top 10. I'd be totally fine with him at 9.
If he could play an NBA season, sure, but I doubt he can do that and I don't think NBA teams care to figure out at this point. I love Dante, he's my favorite player of all time, but he's probably best staying in Europe even if he's an NBA talent.
I literally didn’t even say anything about him except I posted his 3PT% in the playoffs. I’m sorry that you are so defensive about your favorite prospect.
If you weren’t so defensive you could have posted his other stats from the playoffs.
Bilal’s and Ntilikina’s stats look pretty similar at the same age in the same league.
Someone get this info to Danny, stat.
I remember Sekou dropped like 34 either in a French playoff game or right before the playoffs. Another guy I really missed on.
Bilal’s per 36 in France’s A League:
10 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 1.6 APG, 1.5 SPG
Ntilikina’s per 36 in France’s A League:
10.2 PPG, 4.2 RPG, 2.7 APG, 1.5 SPG
10 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 1.6 APG, 1.5 SPG
Ntilikina’s per 36 in France’s A League:
10.2 PPG, 4.2 RPG, 2.7 APG, 1.5 SPG
Bilal’s per 36 in France’s A League:
10 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 1.6 APG, 1.5 SPG
Sekou’s per 36 in France’s A League:
14.8 PPG, 6.3 RPG, 1.4 APG, 1.4 SPG
10 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 1.6 APG, 1.5 SPG
Sekou’s per 36 in France’s A League:
14.8 PPG, 6.3 RPG, 1.4 APG, 1.4 SPG
Sure, I'm the defensive one here lol. I think it's funny you're the guy obsessed with SSS like it's meaningful after lecturing me about how it doesn't mean a thing for Flip. Like I said, pick one or the other. I think it still matters. You won't see me saying Bilal's shot is amazing. I didn't even say whether or not the 9 game sample matters. If I was truly glazing him I would say it doesn't matter at all just like you did with Flip. Bilal's shot is a question mark, I don't hide from that. There's a reason why the two guys I say he's most similar to in the NBA are not good shooters. If you think Bilal's shooting is a question mark, I'd agree with that. It's a question mark for more than half of the top 10 guys, so I don't feel the need to proclaim he's a good shooter to place him where I have him.
I also think it's funny that @Saint Cy of JFC has to keep making up fake positions that I never had. I never said it's impossible for a player to improve after a bad freshman shooting season, I just said it's less likely that he will and the extent to how bad the shooting was matters. But of course, had to make up an extreme version of my argument to try to make me look bad. Just hilarious whenever you guys make up the other side of the argument. I replied to point out the extreme hypocrisy in how you evaluate someone you "like" and someone you "dislike". Especially because you decided to make up the reason why I disagreed on a point about Cam because I was "glazing" him or whatever. My response to the "glazing" accusation would be: pot meet kettle.
If you guys were so confident in your opinions, maybe you wouldn't have to make up the other side of the argument to debate against.
edit: redoing the stats because I included youth competitions which I don't put much value in...
here it is...
Frank 19.3min/5.38pts/2.27rbs/1.51ast/0.73stl/0.2blk......... .532 TS%
Bilal 20.1min/6.03pts/3.03rbs/1.00ast/0.91stl/0.17blk...... .600 TS%
I guess the biggest difference is in efficiency... and still... from what I gather the biggest appeal of Bilal is his rapid development(late bloomer) and the fact that he actually played at high level and in games that mattered.
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Miggs
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What about shooting percentages?
60% vs 53% TS%
Bilal
57/45/59
1.1 3PT attempts per game
Ntilikina
52/43/62
1.6 3PT attempts per game
Sekou
57/34/79
2.5 3PT attempts per game
Ntilikina and Sekou both played on playoff teams and Ntilikina ended up playing 4 more playoff games than Bilal on one of the top-3 teams in the league.