2023 NBA Draft Megathread

[seattlejazzfan]

I get the NBA being seemingly lower on Miller.

His shot is hideous. He shot a decent %, but it being decent felt flukey. Everything about his game is bit odd looking and clunky.

You can explain away his numbers as being he was the only relevant big man on the Ignite this year so him getting #'s was basically a given. I dont think NBA teams are really valuing G-League stats, right or wrong, so the aesthetics of his game are going to be judged more than the stats.

I also think him look absolutely awful in last year's combine scrimmages probably left a bad first impression with a lot of teams.

him getting numbers might have been a given, but him being as efficient as he was was certainly not a given. anybody can get numbers with a ton of opportunities, but efficiency while getting those numbers is what separates the best players from mediocre players. and it's what separates a guy who you would describe as good and a guy you'd describe as dominant.

 

[KqWIN]

Leonard Miller is this year's Tari Eason. Not the prettiest prospect, but the numbers are so good it's hard to ignore.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

I'm worried he may not last until 16 but some mocks have him in the 20s right now which feels like crazy town to me.

i have the same worry, but most of these mocks are making me feel better. still, i wouldn't be at all shocked if the mavs or magic grabbed him at 10 or 11.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

I get the NBA being seemingly lower on Miller.

His shot is hideous. He shot a decent %, but it being decent felt flukey. Everything about his game is bit odd looking and clunky.

You can explain away his numbers as being he was the only relevant big man on the Ignite this year so him getting #'s was basically a given. I dont think NBA teams are really valuing G-League stats, right or wrong, so the aesthetics of his game are going to be judged more than the stats.

I also think him look absolutely awful in last year's combine scrimmages probably left a bad first impression with a lot of teams.

Yeah, I'm not 100% in on Miller mostly because of aesthetics, but then I wonder if that's stupid. He was really impressive.

 

[Elizah Huge]

It’s pretty curious that we’ve only worked out guys in the consensus top-10 and nobody in the 10-25 range. Although, not every workout could be being reported I guess.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I get the NBA being seemingly lower on Miller.

His shot is hideous. He shot a decent %, but it being decent felt flukey. Everything about his game is bit odd looking and clunky.

You can explain away his numbers as being he was the only relevant big man on the Ignite this year so him getting #'s was basically a given. I dont think NBA teams are really valuing G-League stats, right or wrong, so the aesthetics of his game are going to be judged more than the stats.

I also think him look absolutely awful in last year's combine scrimmages probably left a bad first impression with a lot of teams.

I hope so... I think they are overlooking a ton of evidence that he's going to be quite good if they are. He shoots 80% from the free throw line and his finishing around the basket is also elite... lots of evidence that while it looks ugly as hell... he has touch.

He's a bit awkward but he also hit his grow spurt and then sat for a year with an injury. This is kind of his first year as a big... and he is growing at a crazy rate. I think I have him around 12ish on my board and constantly am thinking... am I too low?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yeah, I'm not 100% in on Miller mostly because of aesthetics, but then I wonder if that's stupid. He was really impressive.

I dont know!

I have him at 19.

I dont buy his upside all that much, but I think he's a quality 3rd big who has some open court potential.

I also think the G-League is really easy for bigs to put up crazy numbers in. It's an up and down league and there arent that many quality big men in the G-League (relative to other positions IMO)

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Leonard Miller is this year's Tari Eason. Not the prettiest prospect, but the numbers are so good it's hard to ignore.

That's a solid comparison there.

 

[Bodhi]

I get the NBA being seemingly lower on Miller.

His shot is hideous. He shot a decent %, but it being decent felt flukey. Everything about his game is bit odd looking and clunky.

You can explain away his numbers as being he was the only relevant big man on the Ignite this year so him getting #'s was basically a given. I dont think NBA teams are really valuing G-League stats, right or wrong, so the aesthetics of his game are going to be judged more than the stats.

I also think him look absolutely awful in last year's combine scrimmages probably left a bad first impression with a lot of teams.

Couldnt you argue the opposite? That being the only big on Ignite should have made it more difficult to put up numbers?

Regardless, he continues to be slept on at 19 playing a grown mans league and putting up legit numbers.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Let’s not forgot who invented the Leonard Miller is underrated train.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

It’s pretty curious that we’ve only worked out guys in the consensus top-10 and nobody in the 10-25 range. Although, not every workout could be being reported I guess.

I think the Jazz are going to package 16 + 28 to move up a few spots. Marc Stein was reporting that's what the Jazz are trying to do. Jazz are probably looking at Wallace, George, Bufkin and Hood-Schifino in the early teens.

NOLA needs some cap relief. They're also looking to swing a big deal. Jazz can help there.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Couldnt you argue the opposite? That being the only big on Ignite should have made it more difficult to put up numbers?

Regardless, he continues to be slept on at 19 playing a grown mans league and putting up legit numbers.

You could certainly argue that from an efficiency standpoint.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think the Jazz are going to package 16 + 28 to move up a few spots. Marc Stein was reporting that's what the Jazz are trying to do. Jazz are probably looking at Wallace, George, Bufkin and Hood-Schifino in the early teens.

NOLA also needs some cap relief. They're also looking to swing a big deal. Jazz can help there.

I really wonder if the Jazz are willing to deal Sexton and if any of these teams value Sexton. I could see New Orleans saying "Hey, we need a PG and we need some other players who can create offense" and convincing themselves Sexton could be that guy for them. Same with the Raptors if they dont want a full-rebuild and would rather just re-tool and need a cheaper PG option than FVV.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Couldnt you argue the opposite? That being the only big on Ignite should have made it more difficult to put up numbers?

Regardless, he continues to be slept on at 19 playing a grown mans league and putting up legit numbers.

Yeah... tell me the bigs in the G League are trash all you want... they are grown ups... and they are better than college bigs... and Miller was 18/19 and doing effing work.

Its the whole backstory, plus the production, plus the fact that he is clearly working his *** off to get better... and then I'm like... he's 6-10 with 7-2 wingspan... maybe we are overthinking this a bit.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Yeah... tell me the bigs in the G League are trash all you want... they are grown ups... and they are better than college bigs... and Miller was 18/19 and doing effing work.

Its the whole backstory, plus the production, plus the fact that he is clearly working his *** off to get better... and then I'm like... he's 6-10 with 7-2 wingspan... maybe we are overthinking this a bit.

That's pretty questionable. The best college bigs are going overseas or getting in the NBA. Bigs are in such high demand overseas it leads to a pretty scant talent pool in the G-League.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I really wonder if the Jazz are willing to deal Sexton and if any of these teams value Sexton. I could see New Orleans saying "Hey, we need a PG and we need some other players who can create offense" and convincing themselves Sexton could be that guy for them. Same with the Raptors if they dont want a full-rebuild and would rather just re-tool and need a cheaper PG option than FVV.

I think Dallas or maybe Washington (Sexton obviously a good time on a rebuilding team) would take a look. I also think NY might buy in since Quickley may come in over budget for them. @KqWIN called that scenario out too.

I think Sexton would have some interest, but just like Ochai... not sure how much he moves the needle.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Who's better?

Zach Edey or any player from this list of top rebounders from the G_League?

Season Leaders

The official leaders for the latest G League season. Features the ability to filter by season, season type, per mode, stat category, and more.

stats.gleague.nba.com

 

[NUMBERICA]

Yeah that's what I've been saying with Walker. If you envision Lauri in a 4/5 combo in a 5 out situation, you ideally want someone like Jarace with him. But if you already have Kessler and you're married to the idea of him being a franchise cornerstone, that fit is a little more contentious and you're really counting on Jarace to be able to shoot it.

I stopped myself from mentioning the sub-optimal fit with Walker cuz I ain’t tryna look like a hater, but, yeah.

 

[Jingled]

From the latest Wass mock draft. If the Jazz want JHS, they are probably going to have to take him at 9 or trade up to 12.

View: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10077669-2023-nba-mock-draft-updated-full-2-round-predictions

Seems like most of the mocks the past couple of days have the Jazz getting Ausar...which would be absolutely fine with me.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Seems like most of the mocks the past couple of days have the Jazz getting Ausar...which would be absolutely fine with me.

At the very least it would be exciting.