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2023 NBA Draft Megathread

Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
I think the narrative is that he played on a super flawed team and plays next to Nick Smith who monopolizes the ball too much, and a bad shooting team to boot. Me personally I don’t know what to make of that just playing devils advocate. For that reason he’s not my first or even second choice. But at the same time it gives me pause because they’re not saying he’s an elite play maker for nothing right?
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He’s not elite. He might read the floor better than anybody in this draft but nothing approaching the word “elite”.

Besides that the stats don’t tell a great story on Black, I just don’t see it in the film, either. I would hope highlights make me turn my head but his don’t for me. Sometimes people just have blind-spots on guys and maybe Black is mine because I really just don’t see it.
 
NUMBERICA said:
He’s not elite. He might read the floor better than anybody in this draft but nothing approaching the word “elite”.

Besides that the stats don’t tell a great story on Black, I just don’t see it in the film, either. I would hope highlights make me turn my head but his don’t for me. Sometimes people just have blind-spots on guys and maybe Black is mine because I really just don’t see it.
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Maybe I’m interpreting what people are saying about him because I’ve felt that’s what everyone who has an opinion on him is that he’s the top playmaking pg in the draft.
 
Black has the highest IQ out of any player in the draft and I think his playmaking was even more impressive considering the system and personnel he was working with.
 
I think a decent like 50% type outcome for Cason is Pat Bev with all the dawg but none of the crazy. More playmaking juice I’d guess. Very valuable player but I get that we might want more… the Kentucky guard thing is what I subscribe a chunk of his upside to… I just think he’s a nice safe single/double that helps move the franchise forward.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think a decent like 50% type outcome for Cason is Pat Bev with all the dawg but none of the crazy. More playmaking juice I’d guess. Very valuable player but I get that we might want more… the Kentucky guard thing is what I subscribe a chunk of his upside to… I just think he’s a nice safe single/double that helps move the franchise forward.
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Cason actually has some pretty elite stats. He came in at 3 on Pelton’s big board based on stats only.

Just like the opposite of the French League players I think the Kentucky guard thing works in his favor to me.
 
I love that the common knock on Tey Henny is that he doesn’t create right now.

If he could create today, was still the very high end shooter for his size/position and a fantastic all around defender with emphasis on rim defending…..HE’D BE THE 2nd PICK IN THE ****ING DRAFT!

If Anthony Black shot 41% from 3 on volume he’d be the 2nd pick in the draft. The list goes on and on.
 
Pinhead said:
Do people really not think the Jazz tanked to end the season? They just messed it up and should have tanked a week earlier plus they didn’t expect THT to blow up and blow the tank for two games.
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Yeah, we tanked it. We also pulled off a few surprising wins against teams like Sacramento and Boston, which is why we're 9th in the draft order instead of 7th or 8th. It turns out that Walker Kessler is a floor-raiser.
 
Bodhi said:
I love that the common knock on Tey Henny is that he doesn’t create right now.

If he could create today, was still the very high end shooter for his size/position and a fantastic all around defender with emphasis on rim defending…..HE’D BE THE 2nd PICK IN THE ****ING DRAFT!

If Anthony Black shot 41% from 3 on volume he’d be the 2nd pick in the draft. The list goes on and on.
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You do have a point worth noting but there might be guys that can do that stuff to go along with athleticism and defense. For example, Walker
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Yeah, we tanked it. We also pulled off a few surprising wins against teams like Sacramento and Boston, which is why we're 9th in the draft order instead of 7th or 8th. It turns out that Walker Kessler is a floor-raiser.
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Ya, I mean I’m 90% sure Sexton was good to go at the very least the last month of the season. They even let him come back for one game he was amazing in that game if I recall and then sat the last three games. Lol
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
You do have a point worth noting but there might be guys that can do that stuff to go along with athleticism and defense. For example, Walker
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Walker is not a high level shooter.

Walker is actually another example of what he’s talking about:
-if Walker shot 40% from 3 on twice the attempts he’d go #2
-if Cam Whitmore had a 2:1 assist tone turnover ratio he goes #2
-If Amen shot 40% from 3 he goes #2

And so on.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:

View: https://twitter.com/NoCeilingsNBA/status/1670064798661484545
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These are Scottie Pippen measurables. (Not saying he's Scottie Pippen.) He has enough of a frame that he should be able to add 10 - 15 lbs eventually. He's a full inch taller and 2 inches longer than the Thompson twins. I think he eventually plays as a 3. Another physical comp is Andrew Wiggins, who was 6'8", 197 lbs, with a 7'0" wingspan.


View: https://twitter.com/fra_sempru/status/1670066430614568962
 
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NUMBERICA said:
Walker is not a high level shooter.

Walker is actually another example of what he’s talking about:
-if Walker shot 40% from 3 on twice the attempts he’d go #2
-if Cam Whitmore had a 2:1 assist tone turnover ratio he goes #2
-If Amen shot 40% from 3 he goes #2

And so on.
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I place more importance on other abilities as long as that guy is a capable shooter. Dudes do more often than not improve from being a capable shooter to a good one.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Are you saying at the college or NBA level or just all together?
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NBA. He has a tendency to shoot on the way down and his FT% is worrisome.

His form is fine, though. He looks half comfortable. So maybe that’s a good enough base on the right team. On the wrong team I can see him really struggling.

I’m comfortable taking that bet here if he’s the one that falls to #9 because of our program and that I think he can be a backup big and play with Lauri. But for now he is definitely a big (with glue guy stuff).
 
NUMBERICA said:
Walker is not a high level shooter.

Walker is actually another example of what he’s talking about:
-if Walker shot 40% from 3 on twice the attempts he’d go #2
-if Cam Whitmore had a 2:1 assist tone turnover ratio he goes #2
-If Amen shot 40% from 3 he goes #2

And so on.
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Beat me to it. Thanks.
 
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