Hantlers
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When a 2 point swing starts to mean something near domination, get back at me.
Following potential 2012 draftees
- Thread starter Dr. Jones
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When a 2 point swing starts to mean something near domination, get back at me.
Miller is only a year removed from major surgery, correct? Most players takes more than a year to fully recover, so we may not be seeing all of what Miller has to offer.
spycam1
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My thoughts exactly. Even so, he was a beast before Jones came back.
The combination of talent in this draft and Miller's injury could realistically push him down to the 10-12 range. Could work out perfectly for us.
Chargers Jazz Angels
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I would be pretty pumped to get miller. I think he could be a middle income durant.
utahjazz107
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Wroten had a good game besides the 5 turnovers. 9-16, 6 rebounds, 3 assists, 7 steals, 21 points
I've been consistent here about Tony. A scorer, not a great shooter, turnover prone (or at least not a PG-type decision maker), lots of potential.
In this game, there's a couple negatives (as well as the positives you already pointed out);
- Tony shot 3 of 8 from the FT line. Continuing his poor FT shooting of barely over 50%.
- The 5TO's (you did mention) to 3 assists. Again, following his season average of more TO's than assists.
- His overall FG% is not bad at all at 50%. It's just his 50% FT shooting and 25% 3pt shooting, all in a player that averages more TO's than assists .. I believe it's these things that keep him from showing up near the lottery talk.
So it sounds like Wroten is a less skilled, less athletic, and less talented Westbrook?
Hantlers
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Almost word for word what I was going to post on him. I'm not a big Westbrook fan either...he'll never win a championship.
I don't think Marshall should go before 15. Also, if he had a consistent 3pt shot, he could go as high as 6 or 7. It's just the combo of slow and poor shooter holding him from the lottery.
Cody's a good one. If he gets better throughout this year and next, he'll be top 5 next year.
However, as it stands, Marshall can't score (and hence, can't pressure a defense). In the NCAA.
He's going to be a taller late-career Brevin Knight if he can't learn to at least shoot.
One huge issue in projecting Gilchrist as a prospect on the Jazz is his shooting. The Jazz already have way too many 4s for him to play there and have too much of a need at 3 anyway. Of the 4 untouchables right now, only Hayward looks like he could be a legit floor-spreader with Kanter probably having a better shot than Burks but needing way more time and opportunities if that is to ever come to fruition.
If you imagine a future lineup of Harris at 30+, Hayward or Burks, Gilchrist, Favors, and Kanter in a serious game, prepare for a brick-fest as the D will just zone and/or collapse and the Jazz won't be able to do anything about it in the half-court. The Jazz have three pressing needs:
1) a pure PG that can shoot.
2) a real SF that can shoot.
3) shooting anywhere they can find it.
I have no faith that Gilchrist with that awful hitch in his shot and pedestrian (that's being kind) results in the NCAA will be able to suddenly become Reggie Miller.
However if Kanter becomes Rasheed Wallace (offensively, without the crazy) and Burks becomes Kevin Martin, then this is much less of an issue. I'm not terribly confident either of those things - let alone both - happen.
If you imagine a future lineup of Harris at 30+, Hayward or Burks, Gilchrist, Favors, and Kanter in a serious game, prepare for a brick-fest as the D will just zone and/or collapse and the Jazz won't be able to do anything about it in the half-court. The Jazz have three pressing needs:
1) a pure PG that can shoot.
2) a real SF that can shoot.
3) shooting anywhere they can find it.
I have no faith that Gilchrist with that awful hitch in his shot and pedestrian (that's being kind) results in the NCAA will be able to suddenly become Reggie Miller.
However if Kanter becomes Rasheed Wallace (offensively, without the crazy) and Burks becomes Kevin Martin, then this is much less of an issue. I'm not terribly confident either of those things - let alone both - happen.
Wroten kinda reminds me of Tyreke Evans
Fair points. Barnes is your guy for what you just outlined. MKG is a special player, truly, that only come around every few years, but his outside shot is anything but money. It's tough this draft, so much talent, so many holes in everyone's game.
Word. Gilchrist reminds me of Ronnie Brewer during his college years. Brewer was actually a way better ballhandler/passer though. He will most likely be better than Brewer because his shot isn't as bad, but I still think he will need the right offensive system/PG to succeed at a high level.
I think I even posted an old draft description of Brewer's that read identical to the current ones on MKG.