So basically your counter is that darker skinned individuals suffer more rascism so there are therefore no rascists that have darker skin? That is just stupid. Twisting an answer to suit your needs is fun!
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So basically your counter is that darker skinned individuals suffer more rascism so there are therefore no rascists that have darker skin? That is just stupid. Twisting an answer to suit your needs is fun!
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Barring an economic collapse this year (which looks unlikely), I can't see Obama losing to Romney. Romney's unfavorables are quite high and with America being a 'what have you done lately for me', most will give Obama four more years if he's on a winning streak.
Part of the problem the GOP has is how they've alienated anyone who is not a white voter. You simply can't ignore the hispanic vote. By stating he would veto the Dream Act, he's effectively stripped away a huge amount of the electorate. Even putting Rubio on the ticket isn't going to help him out.
Like it or not, our country is changing more and more everyday. You can't win an election catering to Christians or a certain racial group; you have to try and be all things to all people.
Part of the problem the GOP has is how they've alienated anyone who is not a white voter. You simply can't ignore the hispanic vote. By stating he would veto the Dream Act, he's effectively stripped away a huge amount of the electorate. Even putting Rubio on the ticket isn't going to help him out.
Like it or not, our country is changing more and more everyday. You can't win an election catering to Christians or a certain racial group; you have to try and be all things to all people.
I have called this race for Romney barring somthing catostrophic happening. Well that may have happened. Rick Perry is dropping out before the S.C primary (today from reports) His voters will most likely go to Gingrich and/or Santorum. That could give Gingrich just enough ground to take S.C. away from Romney. If Romney losses S.C this whole race changes.
A worthy sidenote is that no republican has won the nomination without carrying S.C and no nominee has ever won Iowa, N.H. and S.C. in the same race.
A worthy sidenote is that no republican has won the nomination without carrying S.C and no nominee has ever won Iowa, N.H. and S.C. in the same race.
Well, duh. Why do you think I framed my answers the way I did., putting quotes around the white each time?
I specifically said the Black Panthers would have supported #2 and #6 for all people (as opposed to the versions you stated).
TroutBum,
From what I can tell, if you are past 30, it's not by much. I've seen your picture on this forum. You are 30 years too young and many shades too light to understand the Black Panthers list, and the cultural context that produced it. You have a great heart and a good mind, but neither will give you the experience of a darkly-skinned adult in the 1960s. In that time, under those condition, the list is a response to break out of racism, not engender it.
First, I apologize for the bad proofreading in the post you quoted.
I didn't introduce the KKK nor the New Black Panther party into this discussion. Racism is a daily issue for people with darker skin colors, not something you face only when you see the KKK. For you, racism by darker people only affects your life when you see it directly. For those with darker skin, the experience is a daily thing.
Not an issue anymore. As of this morning, Santorum won Iowa.
For those who care to do a little reading on the daily experiences of people with darker skin. Note the KKK and similar groups are nowhere to be found.
https://freethoughtblogs.com/crommu...et-a-black-mans-view-on-schroedingers-rapist/
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/18/...d-by-the-nypd.html?_r=3&pagewanted=all?src=tp
https://freethoughtblogs.com/crommu...et-a-black-mans-view-on-schroedingers-rapist/
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/18/...d-by-the-nypd.html?_r=3&pagewanted=all?src=tp
I agree in principle and I have never disagreed. My use of the the KKK and New Black Panther party is merely becuase they are two premier rascist groups. I also belive that some of the crap they claim to be rascist really is and some of it is bullcrap because they didn't get their way.
For example: A Native American woman accused me of rascism because I would not give her what she wanted. The reason I did not is because by law she has to have acceptable I.D to get what she wanted and she had NOTHING. But that does not matter because I was rascist.
Lol you are really caught up on my mentioning the KKK and New Black Panther party huh. It was only an example and I have clearly said that is all it was. I never claimed that to be rascist you had to be a member or that they were the root cause for rascism. Just a simple example of a rascist group. That is it. Let it go.
But he cannot be declared the winner because of "irregularities" or some such crap. He won by 34 votes. But yes it appears that Romney did not win.
The public perception will still be that it was a virtual tie.
I think this is funny because I grew up in a mostly minority neighborhood. If One Brow doesn't think I ever faced racism, was never beaten up due to racism, didn't deal with race issues on a daily basis because I have pale skin he can continue to live in his little fantasy world.
Without knowing the details, I'm sure you made the fair choice and applied the law just as you would for anyone else.
However, let's say you're 50 years old, live in a state where five years ago they passed a stricter ID law. You may not even know of it's existence. For years, you seen woung people with much light skin than you buy liquor without being carded, while the obviously adult people with your skin color regularly get carded. One day, you forget your card, and get turned away. What your first instinct as to the cause?
As long as you associate "racism" with "racist groups", you're missing the point. Did you even read the links?
No. I do not use links from this computer. Period. I will however read them when I am at home.
You are trying to argue something else entirely and are either intentionally missunderstanding or just don't care.
So just because they claim it to be something it is? Bullcrap. You just proved my point. They cry rascism when it clearly is not. Rascism is alive and well but it is not the reason for everything. That is simply a cop out.
I'm very impressed at how well you held up when every television show featured faces with darker skin, all the Presidents had darker skin than you, all those stores kept following you because of your lighter skin, police pulled you over because you had lighter skin, interviewers who classified you as "aggressive" instead of "assertive", etc. That all happened to you, right?
I mean, otherwise, you'd be whining over the same type of treatment given to kids who wore glasses, had funny voices, etc.
I'm not the least bit impressed by your upbringing. When I was 9, we moved to a government project called LaClede Town, which was deloiberately kept racially balanced. Some of the kids with light skin managed to figure out how not to behave with the typical privilege you see emanating from so many of those with lighter skin.
Perahps I understood, but just thought the bringing up of racial groups was irrelevant to the notion that racism was equally prevalent on the left (although, I'm not sure the "New Black Panthers" (quoted in respect of the injunction) would qualify as leftist, regardless)?
The original point was that a darkly skinned, or female, VP candidate would demotivate a substantial part of the Republican base, and from what I can tell, a larger part than would be motivated by it. I don't see how the "New Black Panthers" is relevant to that comment.
No, I was just explaining why the claim might be based on something besides, as you put it, "bullcrap". That something being a life history you have not experienced. A person's life experiences are not "bullcrap".
I specifically said that I believed your actions were fair.
Conversations flow and subjects change or get altered. You have been around long enough to know that. My EXAMPLE is as relevant as your assertion that darker skinned people suffer rascism all day every day. and that just becasue they think it is rascism it is.
Also I do think that rascism is as prevelant on the left as it is the right. The motivations and ways it is expressed are different but I think it is still rascism.
Also I do think that rascism is as prevelant on the left as it is the right. The motivations and ways it is expressed are different but I think it is still rascism.
Thank goodness I have a person with lighter-skinned privilege explaining to me what's relevant for those with darker skin. I'm so enlightened!