Jordan Clarkson Trades?

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think it finally happens. I think JC gets moved this offseason. My prediction is he goes to the Kings as the Monk replacement when Detroit offers him like $100m and he bails.

It could be Huerter or Barnes... or a combo of Lyles and someone else plus draft comp.

What other destinations do you think are possible here.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

I wish I had a better idea of his current value, but I'm just not really sure.

 

[KqWIN]

I don’t think we’re getting positive value for JC. Would he get the Full MLE this summer? I don’t think he would. Our best hope would be to get a different kind of contract which also has negative/neutral value or get a straight salary dump to a team with leftover cap.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

I don’t think we’re getting positive value for JC. Would he get the Full MLE this summer? I don’t think he would. Our best hope would be to get a different kind of contract which also has negative/neutral value or get a straight salary dump to a team with leftover cap.

I'm not that concerned about him on the team or his contract that I would do a deal for negative value.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I don’t think we’re getting positive value for JC. Would he get the Full MLE this summer? I don’t think he would. Our best hope would be to get a different kind of contract which also has negative/neutral value or get a straight salary dump to a team with leftover cap.

I think he would. I think he's more neutral value. Huerter and Barnes I think are both pretty neutral as well. Kevin had shoulder surgery and had his own struggles. Shoulder surgery for a shooter puts a dent in the old trade value. I was hoping JC plus 29, 32 could get us to 13 maybe but that might be ambitious.

 

[KqWIN]

I think he would. I think he's more neutral value. Huerter and Barnes I think are both pretty neutral as well. Kevin had shoulder surgery and had his own struggles. Shoulder surgery for a shooter puts a dent in the old trade value. I was hoping JC plus 29, 32 could get us to 13 maybe but that might be ambitious.

Clarkson had an infinitely worse season than Huerter + is old. Don't think it's close.

 

[KqWIN]

I'm not that concerned about him on the team or his contract that I would do a deal for negative value.

That's fine, as long as he doesn't take up development minutes....I don't think we will get anything for him through trade unless it's a different kind of undesirable contract. If Clarkson was a FA today, maybe he finds a 2/$28 offer but it certainly wouldn't come from use.

I would be willing to give up assets to get rid of Clarkson if we had an effective use for the added cap space or if we really want those minutes for development instead.

 

[sip]

That's fine, as long as he doesn't take up development minutes....I don't think we will get anything for him through trade unless it's a different kind of undesirable contract. If Clarkson was a FA today, maybe he finds a 2/$28 offer but it certainly wouldn't come from use.

I would be willing to give up assets to get rid of Clarkson if we had an effective use for the added cap space or if we really want those minutes for development instead.

The development minutes that will be lost is my biggest concern if Clarkson is on the roster. Hardy will give him at least 24 minutes a game no matter how bad he plays and there is a pretty good chance he is closer to 30 minutes if he is playing half decent.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Clarkson had an infinitely worse season than Huerter + is old. Don't think it's close.

Infinitely worse is an exaggeration but fine. Its not necessarily about what they did last year and more about what they do for the next two. Kevin coming off of shoulder surgery might be pretty awful to start the year. He also makes about 7m more the next two years. JC has always been a little up and down so I think he could bounce back up.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I will say there is close to 0% chance he gets moved as the main piece in any deal. His shooting was so bad last year that teams will need some evidence that he has turned it around with a nice early start.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I wish I had a better idea of his current value, but I'm just not really sure.

His value will be he is playing well next season and someone at the deadline wants to add firepower.

 

[homeytennis]

Maybe the best chance of moving him is a several team tradeapalooza happening and his salary can be a match in that. Maybe the Jazz get back a bad contract or a 2nd round draft pick or two.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Clarkson + 29 + 32 to the Lakers for Vincent + Lewis + 17

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I will say there is close to 0% chance he gets moved as the main piece in any deal. His shooting was so bad last year that teams will need some evidence that he has turned it around with a nice early start.

I think he has a long enough track record there that teams know what they are buying.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think he has a long enough track record there that teams know what they are buying.

Any FO that puts any value in advanced stats (which is most) would strongly disagree.

 

[KqWIN]

Infinitely worse is an exaggeration but fine. Its not necessarily about what they did last year and more about what they do for the next two. Kevin coming off of shoulder surgery might be pretty awful to start the year. He also makes about 7m more the next two years. JC has always been a little up and down so I think he could bounce back up.

I think JC's awful season has been understated...one of the worst players getting big minutes on a "competitive" team when you consider his terrible offense and defense. Kevin had surgery on his non-shooting shoulder, he is not dead and he's 25 years old. I'm not looking at JC (about to turn 32 in a few days) and saying... "wow his future is bright". Especially compared to a 25 year old.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Also I would not trade Clarkson for Huerter.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think JC's awful season has been understated...one of the worst players getting big minutes on a "competitive" team when you consider his terrible offense and defense. Kevin had surgery on his non-shooting shoulder, he is not dead and he's 25 years old. I'm not looking at JC (about to turn 32 in a few days) and saying... "wow his future is bright". Especially compared to a 25 year old.

First of all... there is no such thing as a non-shooting shoulder. Shoulder injuries are some of the scarier ones for basketball players.

Maybe so. He was awful but I don't think teams view us as competitive. I think someone could convince themselves he would bounce back when surrounded by more vets or whatever.

I just know Kings fans were as done with Huerter as we were with JC... so I thought maybe there is something there. Maybe nothing there I suppose.

 

[Shad]

Here's how I see it. If we don't move him, we're 100% trying to lose (he'll make sure we're a bottom team). If we do move him, we lose, since we'd have to give positive assets to move him. It's a lose/lose either way.

 

[KqWIN]

First of all... there is no such thing as a non-shooting shoulder. Shoulder injuries are some of the scarier ones for basketball players.

Maybe so. He was awful but I don't think teams view us as competitive. I think someone could convince themselves he would bounce back when surrounded by more vets or whatever.

I just know Kings fans were as done with Huerter as we were with JC... so I thought maybe there is something there. Maybe nothing there I suppose.

Left shoulder, right shoulder...you can't play the "think about the future" card when one guy is 25 and the other is about to turn 32. And the guy who is 25 was way better than the 32 year old last season too.