Off-Season Rumblings

[gomretat]

Unequivocal proof that the black and yellow jerseys are more popular than the purple. Yellow is back!

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Unequivocal proof that the black and yellow jerseys are more popular than the purple. Yellow is back!

Those shorts do look solid but they arent the shorts they were for the games w/ the black/yellow.

 

[KqWIN]

If we are going the pump up Collins trade value then I think you continue starting him at center and feed him more PnR possessions. That means Walker gets pushed to the side a little. I honestly don't think Collins can have his trade value increase all that much. The on/off stuff was really bad but his individual season was a big improvement over his last year in Atlanta. He may increase his value but not by a lot. I just think JC/Sexton and John/Kessler are the pairings that aren't super simpatico so you move one from each group if the offers are good enough.

That first half of the season was really tragic for him. I do think NBA teams care about using more advanced analytics and the awful +/- will effect that. Having a good start of the season and establishing that what he did in the year of 2024 is his new norm without horrendous on/off numbers will go along ways.

I agree with the statement about changing his role. Starting with Kessler is one thing, the other issue with Collins in UTA is that we are not a PnR team at all so even if he was playing C he's doing the same thing in ATL. The amount of PnR possessions he got was the same as in ATL despite playing significantly more C. Hardy was pretty open about not even playing in a way that would produce wins, so maybe he will start to use Collins in a way that he is most useful. Either way, he has the ability to post massive numbers. and that will look good for him

And as with Sexton, I don't think John Collins is all about pumping up his trade value. He can be a good player. I think both are guys who questionable fits with any team, but they offer value as offensive options. I put Clarkson in another boat because I don't think he can be valuable to us in any scenario. For as much as people say JC's role was the issue, I think he's actually been in a near ideal situation to perform. He's just not that good anymore.

 

[homeytennis]

They were trying to lose.

But they ended up splitting the last four games and competed in all four. It cost a draft position.

 

[gomretat]

Those shorts do look solid but they arent the shorts they were for the games w/ the black/yellow.

I was kidding. I hope the yellow goes with the hockey team and we get real jerseys back.

 

[default]

I wonder how the Pistons view Isiah Stewart now that their is a new front office. I wonder if a more palatable deal would be Collins for Stewart with the 10/5 swap. Just a thought.

I will throw in a ham sandwich to even out the deal.

 

[framer]

But they ended up splitting the last four games and competed in all four. It cost a draft position.

Had we won those two last games we would have the #1 pick.

 

[Rubashov]

I will throw in a ham sandwich to even out the deal.

Honestly is Stewart worth anything? He's a crap player on a terrible team

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Honestly is Stewart worth anything? He's a crap player on a terrible team

He once tried to murder Lebron... that has to be worth something.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

View: https://x.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1796564867492487611


You think the news is that those guys aren't on the block... I am telling you the news is that they are referred to as the Core 4.... this ends poorly.

 

[Shad]

View: https://x.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1796564867492487611


You think the news is that those guys aren't on the block... I am telling you the news is that they are referred to as the Core 4.... this ends poorly.

It will end very poorly.

 

[infection]

View: https://x.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1796564867492487611


You think the news is that those guys aren't on the block... I am telling you the news is that they are referred to as the Core 4.... this ends poorly.

Core 4. Awesome.

 

[framer]

Core 4. Awesome.

They just need to pick up Ty Corbin to fill that vacancy and we would be all set!

 

[homeytennis]

The Cavs trainers have to be very afraid.

 

[Step-Back Lauri]

As long as I get to hear more yellow jerseys, it'll be a great off-season!

 

[underdog]

Here is my Collins idea. I do like him and all our guys incl the one in my avatar. Since Ainge is "big game hunting" this might be a "star" we can actually get:

To Utah: Lamelo Ball, Grant Williams, Nick Richards, Lonzo Ball, #42 pick in this draft

To Charlotte: Keyonte, Kessler, Clarkson, #10, '25 Minn FRP, '27 Minn FRP

To Chicago: John Collins, #29 pick

Ainge gets his "star" plus his brother who now has a new meniscus. Apparently Jazz have been working out 2nd round guys like Bona.

Charlotte gets 3 FRP's, Key, and Kessler to build around Brandon Miller. They now have 2 picks in the top 10 of this draft. Their current young center Mark Williams has been hobbled all year with some sort of mysterious foot ailment.

The Bulls get out of Ball business and add a pro in Collins who would also be insurance in case they lose Patrick Williams.

Y'all are free to hate away..

Creative trade idea. I’d love to get LaMelo. Would be terrific fit with Lauri. And if Lonzo could get healthy, that would be something. I can’t imagine the Hornets give up LaMelo though.

 

[KqWIN]

More reporting has come out that the Grizz are looking to trade up. I think Clingan is option 1, Kessler would be the next best option (and potentially safer option) as a low salary C for them.

 

[Elizah Huge]

More reporting has come out that the Grizz are looking to trade up. I think Clingan is option 1, Kessler would be the next best option (and potentially safer option) as a low salary C for them.

Kessler + 29 + 32 for 9

Who says no?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Kessler + 29 + 32 for 9

Who says no?

I'm not sure we are willing to move Walker yet. If we do I think it will be a deal we do really well in... so I'd say 9 for Walker straight up... maybe we throw in one of the later picks. We can then consolidate the 29/32 picks to move up.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

View: https://x.com/esidery/status/1796667945889726791


Another day another "Lavine's price may be real low" report.