The Move Forward Plan - NO TANK DISCUSSION IN THIS THREAD

[KqWIN]

The time to trade for Jon Issac isn’t now, it was last season. Sometimes you’ve got to take on a little risk to get a win. That’s what the Jazz were trying to do with Collins last summer. But the “risk” of Simmons is clearing off unwanted future salary….so not really any risk at all unless you want to bet on Collins regaining positive value (which could happen tbh). Seems as though the FO has already expressed regret over the Collins trade and they should be regretting the Clarkson contract.

It doesn’t surprise we that Simmons became a big talking point because people love to **** on him more than just about any player in the league. If you don’t believe in Collins or Clarkson going forward, this would be a good exit plan if BKN made it available. If we were talking about trading those two bad contracts for “bob” there wouldn’t be much pushback.

Collins I can see rationale either way…Clarkson I don’t think can help us even in a move forward situation.

We should be think about the cap situation this year and the near future as well. One thing to keep an eye on and consider is Sexton’s next contract? If we want to keep him, he would also be a good R+E candidate next summer. We could try to get him on heavily front loaded deal like Myles Turner’s deal. Big decisions will have to be made on Sexton soon. Having that extra $40M in cap to keep options open for Sexton is a good idea.

When we compete, we will need to have good, starter level players on bargain deals. Sexton R+E is one potential avenue for that and it’s something we should keep in mind when adding any future salary. I think that if we trade for a big salary player, it’s important that we get off of at least Clarkson.

That is if we even want Sexton as a part of our plans of course.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Any other bright ideas besides trading for Ben Simmons?

 

[KqWIN]

Speaking of the Pelicans, I do think they are a team who could have more interest in both Sexton and Collins. What do we think of a trade built around Sexton+Collins for Ingram?

 

[Elizah Huge]

Speaking of the Pelicans, I do think they are a team who could have more interest in both Sexton and Collins. What do we think of a trade built around Sexton+Collins for Ingram?

I think trading away Sexton takes away some appeal to trading for Ingram. I’d much rather do something around Collins + Clarkson + Kessler if possible.

 

[KqWIN]

I think trading away Sexton takes away some appeal to trading for Ingram. I’d much rather do something around Collins + Clarkson + Kessler if possible.

I think you do this if you think Keyonte is Lisan Al-Ghaib. I’m not there yet, but the FO might. Even if not, I don’t think generally Ingram is a more prized player than Sexton. Would have to see if Ingram is willing to extend.

I think NOP will want a player focused trade over more picks. Murray would be my number one target for them…I could see them going for Garland or Trae as well.

 

[KqWIN]

If we do trade John Collins and want to do it again, I think Jalen Smith is an underrated player who will be a FA. IND has a big log jam in the frontcourt so he will likely leave. If we got John Collins, but he was getting paid half as much and 24 years old I think we'd all like that.

 

[stitches]

How gettable is Lamelo? Will he cost more than Ingram?

 

[Douchebag K]

How gettable is Lamelo? Will he cost more than Ingram?

the medical bills will be crazy expensive

 

[Rubashov]

the medical bills will be crazy expensive

184 out of 328 games, made of glass Dante played 204, pea sized heart Ben Simmons 275.

 

[The Midnight]

Drafting Bronny with our late 1st should be at the VERY top of our agenda this Summer.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

With regard to Ben, Lonzo, and even Lavine. Moving forward you want to put yourself in as many win-win situations as possible. I’m sorry if this is to tanky for folks but if those guys are good and you get them for nothing or next to nothing… then it’s a win. If not healthy you play the young guys more and accept the consequences. Some of those guys are much bigger IFs but you have easy exits. Lavines contract carries significant risk but it sounds like he’s as close to rock bottom… he could go lower but with any reasonable health his value should bounce back.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Speaking of the Pelicans, I do think they are a team who could have more interest in both Sexton and Collins. What do we think of a trade built around Sexton+Collins for Ingram?

If we arent giving up picks I would be very happy about that trade. We then can pursue another guard. We also leave ourselves open to enough picks to make 2 big trades and still have FA. Someone know one expected will become available, it happens pretty much every year. Things change very quickly in the NBA.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Speaking of the Pelicans, I do think they are a team who could have more interest in both Sexton and Collins. What do we think of a trade built around Sexton+Collins for Ingram?

I dont see it unless Pelicans have a plan to trade McCollum. Sexton/McCollum is not a synergistic backcourt.

 

[Step-Back Lauri]

I just want Deni Avdija, he has all star ceiling, solid defense, good size for a forward(206cm) and would fit perfectly in Hardy-ball. Has good bb IQ and would pair with Lauri, as Deni can play-make a bit. Oh, and makes just 55 millions four next year's combined.

But that damn dude had to throw that 43pts career high this spring, and had a really solid spring overall... Wiz resigned hi., and even if I read their owners to want to acquire more picks, I'd think they might overprize Deni. If you can get him with two firsts+anyone not named Markkanen, Keyonte or Kessler, go fetch him. I would honestly pay up a small overprize for him.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I just want Deni Avdija, he has all star ceiling, solid defense, good size for a forward(206cm) and would fit perfectly in Hardy-ball. Has good bb IQ and would pair with Lauri, as Deni can playmake a bit. But that damn dude had to throw that 43pts career high this spring, and had a really solid spring overall... Wiz resigned hi., and even if I read their owners to want to acquire more picks, I'd think they might overprize Deni. If you can get him with two firsts+anyone not named Markkanen, Keyonte or Kessler, go fetch him.

What kind of rocks are you smoking? In his entire career he has had one month of scoring 20 ppg, and this is on an extreme tanker. He's good and potentially a nice 3rd option/high level 4th, but no where close to all-star without significant improvement.

 

[Step-Back Lauri]

What kind of rocks are you smoking? In his entire career he has had one month of scoring 20 ppg, and this is on an extreme tanker. He's good and potentially a nice 3rd option/high level 4th, but no where close to all-star without significant improvement.

His efficiency jumped up a lot this season,he's a wholesome player that fits perfectly in Hardy-ball. When Brian Keefe took the HC job in Wiz this January, Deni got a bit more better run offense imo. And I think Hardy is a better coach. There's a reason why Deni was the better performing player on floor instead of Lauri when we met Israel (they have had one of the best run, modern offenses in int.basketball imo which tells me what Hardy could get out of him in Utah) with team Finland the last time. Deni is really good and under correct coaching, borderline all-star.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

His efficiency jumped up a lot this season,he's a wholesome player that fits perfectly in Hardy-ball. When Brian Keefe took the HC job in Wiz this January, Deni got a bit more better run offense imo. And I think Hardy is a better coach. There's a reason why Deni was the better player when we met Israel (they have had one of the best run, modern offenses in int.basketball imo which tells me what Hardy could get out of him in Utah) with team Finland the last time. Deni is really good and under correct coaching, borderline all-star.

Wholesome players dont make all-star teams. Freaks do.

 

[whatthe]

We traded KO and Tech and collapsed. How about look for someone to fill those roles? Bring over the Tech replacement, trade for Boris Diaz, haveLofton, Sensabaugh lose weight and find a way to improve defense and ball handling.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

We traded KO and Tech and collapsed. How about look for someone to fill those roles? Bring over the Tech replacement, trade for Boris Diaz, haveLofton, Sensabaugh lose weight and find a way to improve defense and ball handling.

Yup, I made a new thread that goes into that a bit since this thread kind of devolved into a tank thread were people are talking about the merits of adding Ben freaking Simmons.

 

[KqWIN]

I dont see it unless Pelicans have a plan to trade McCollum. Sexton/McCollum is not a synergistic backcourt.

I think NOP will have to look past CJ soon. He is probably difficult to move on that salary....but Sexton isn't that expensive and Jones is also on a super cheap contract. They can move CJ to the bench if they can't find anything. They can also win a lot of regular season games with them both playing together.