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So why doesn't he shoot it better from 3 then?

I just don't like drafting a guy based off of "what if".
With Topic most of the film that I watched had him shooting a lot of off the dribble 3's which tend to be a lower percentage than open catch and shoot looks. I would be interested to know what his percentages are when he gets catch and shoot look.
 
It’s not uncommon. Luka Doncic would probably be the most common example.
Yep. Percentages can get skewed pretty easily by the quality of looks. You have guys like Royce O'neale taking open catch and shoot looks while you have lead ball handlers taking more difficult off the dribble shots and end of shot clock forced looks.
 
This Topic can't shoot stuff is going overboard. He isn't consistent yet but he has a good shooting stroke and I would be surprised if he doesn't improve his consistency. I don't think we are looking at a Rubio situation with him where it is always a liability.
His stroke isn't good for a 3pt shot. I guess we can say it's consistent because of the FT%, but the form is objectively bad (borderline broken). It very much is a Rubio situation because his form makes his **** extremely flat. He also doesn't have any midrange shot or floater to speak of.
 
Latest ESPN mock draft just dropped:

Atlanta hasn’t been able to secure a workout with Sarr. Risacher and Clingan remain potential candidates to go at 1. They could also trade back a couple spots.

Sarr did workout for Washington and they would likely take him if he was there at 2.

Sheppard’s draft range is extremely small. It’s unlikely he falls past 3 or 4.

If Risacher and Sheppard are off the board at 4 the Spurs likely pick Castle.

Teams are thinking Detroit takes Buzelis at 5.

Knecht’s draft range is becoming narrow. Teams don’t think he will fall past 7 or 8.

Clingan is a trade up candidate but teams drafting 3-6 aren’t interested in taking him for themselves.

Dillingham will be working out for the Spurs and Pistons. Utah and Chicago are interested in securing workouts with him as well. The Jazz and Bulls are seen as potential landing spots if the Spurs don’t take him at 8.

Williams will have worked out for every team in the top-10 except Houston. He’s a candidate to go in the top-8.

Topic is visiting teams and the Jazz are on his schedule. They have us taking him at 10 in their latest mock this morning.
 
His stroke isn't good for a 3pt shot. I guess we can say it's consistent because of the FT%, but the form is objectively bad (borderline broken). It very much is a Rubio situation because his form makes his **** extremely flat. He also doesn't have any midrange shot or floater to speak of.

I'm not seeing the borderline broken form that you are claiming.

 
His dad Anthony Carter is on their coaching staff, which is why Devin has been rumored to go there pretty consistently. He's also a good fit as a third guard since the Grizzlies lost DeAnthony Melton a couple years back. Unless the Grizzlies take Edey, Devin Carter is probably the betting favorite.
Their 3rd guard is Smart. That's why Devin Carter doesn't make much sense for Memphis outside of culture fit/NBA ready. They need big man depth or wing depth. But will they reach in that over the more known commodity? We will see
 
If you look at Topic's form and are like "yeah that's what a good shooter form looks like" I assume you haven't watched basketball since the 80s
 
Bub Carrington should be on the list at 10 if that’s how the draft turns out.

Knecht is way too old. Lack of upside.
Holland lack of shooting.
Topic lack of shooting,
Edey too many questions around fit and flexibility. Also old.
Why does Knecht lack upside?
 
His dad Anthony Carter is on their coaching staff, which is why Devin has been rumored to go there pretty consistently. He's also a good fit as a third guard since the Grizzlies lost DeAnthony Melton a couple years back. Unless the Grizzlies take Edey, Devin Carter is probably the betting favorite.
I don’t really see it. Are they really going to use a top-10 pick on a 4th guard?
 
It "suggests" he can shoot?

We suffered a whole crappy season to hang our hat on an estimation that his FT% "suggests" he can shoot?

oh boy.

Why not take someone who can ALREADY shoot? Bub Carrington shoots lights out and he'll be available at #10.
Carrington is an interesting name at 10. I have him 13th on my board. I started off super high I. Him but then he fell off a cliff and I assumed he was at least a 2 year college guy so I turned him off in my brain, but he started playing better to end the year and he impressed at the combine so I'm back in.

He's going to be a good shooter,far better than Topic, and his shooting profile is elite in terms of the style of shots a lead PNR guard needs in his bag.

Would love to trade Walker for 9, draft Edey at 9, grab Carrington at 10 (they would be a great pairing), and move 29/32 to move up to secure Dadiet.
 
I love how Carrington is lights out at 32% and Topic cannot shoot at 31% lol. I don’t even dislike Carrington it’s just funny to go on a rampage over such a small difference in a highly variable stat.

It’s 2024. We should know that 3FG% isn’t the best indicator anyways.
 
I love how Carrington is lights out at 32% and Topic cannot shoot at 31% lol. I don’t even dislike Carrington it’s just funny to go on a rampage over such a small difference in a highly variable stat.

It’s 2024. We should know that 3FG% isn’t the best indicator anyways.
I know watching basketball is hard for some people
 
Love how Kqwin didn't learn at all from his GG Jackson takes and still continues to place such importance on stats for 18 year olds

An outlier is an outlier. I was wrong on GG and I am definitely being more open minded to dismissing stats for guys in bad situations. I don’t think I’m going to ignore the entire history of draft prospects on the NBA.

BTW, I had GG Jackson higher than you so I hope you’ve learned something as well.
 
I actually think Bub and Topic will both be able to shoot it (to some extent) much better than they did prior to the NBA. I just don't see how one was lights out and the other was some kind of abomination. This is pretty much exactly what I'm saying:

I'm really high on Carrington but he doesn't shoot the lights out. I do think he will end up being a solid shooter but this year he shot 32% from 3 which is bad for a guard. He was really streaky where he would have solid stretches which gives you some hope for where he can get to.
 
Their 3rd guard is Smart. That's why Devin Carter doesn't make much sense for Memphis outside of culture fit/NBA ready. They need big man depth or wing depth. But will they reach in that over the more known commodity? We will see

Smart has 2 more years on his deal and the Grizzlies are already open to trading him.
 
Latest ESPN mock draft just dropped:

Atlanta hasn’t been able to secure a workout with Sarr. Risacher and Clingan remain potential candidates to go at 1. They could also trade back a couple spots.

Sarr did workout for Washington and they would likely take him if he was there at 2.

Sheppard’s draft range is extremely small. It’s unlikely he falls past 3 or 4.

If Risacher and Sheppard are off the board at 4 the Spurs likely pick Castle.

Teams are thinking Detroit takes Buzelis at 5.

Knecht’s draft range is becoming narrow. Teams don’t think he will fall past 7 or 8.

Clingan is a trade up candidate but teams drafting 3-6 aren’t interested in taking him for themselves.

Dillingham will be working out for the Spurs and Pistons. Utah and Chicago are interested in securing workouts with him as well. The Jazz and Bulls are seen as potential landing spots if the Spurs don’t take him at 8.

Williams will have worked out for every team in the top-10 except Houston. He’s a candidate to go in the top-8.

Topic is visiting teams and the Jazz are on his schedule. They have us taking him at 10 in their latest mock this morning.

Putting intel together, a rough outline would be:

No chance at falling to 10:
Risacher
Sarr
Sheppard
Castle
Clingan

Likely not falling to 10:
Knecht
Matas

Rumored to go higher than 10:
Cody Williams

If we rule out the guys above , looks like we'll be drafting from:
Holland
Topic
Carter
Dillingham
Salaun
 
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