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Is Cody too similar to Hendricks?

HermanG said:
Hendricks and Cody are two COMPLETELY different player types. No one is ahead of anyone, as they wont compete for the same role in the final roster if they reach their ceilings.

One is an off ball role player whose main calling card should be his defense, while the other one is a secondary ballhandler / on ball creator.
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Pretty sure Ainge didn’t waste a #9 pick in a stacked draft last year on an “off ball role player”.

Pretty sure he wants him to develop into much more than that.
 
The Midnight said:
Pretty sure Ainge didn’t waste a #9 pick in a stacked draft last year on an “off ball role player”.

Pretty sure he wants him to develop into much more than that.
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Why you hate off ball role players? Every championship team has 2-3 starters who play mostly off ball, and are still super valuable to their teams. Having those guys means your best players get to keep the rock more.

If you knew you had next Aaron Gordon at #9, would you pass just because he is an off ball role player?

I mean if you pick a projected role player top 3 (or some years even top 5), then you should probably be scutinized. But picking up super high ceiling off ball player at #9 is not "wasting a pick".
 
The Midnight said:
So I was thinking about this.

Both are lengthy, athletic, can knock down open shots and have the tools to be elite defenders.

But they both lack the ability to create for themselves. Lack the dribbling ability and the ‘wiggle’. You can’t give them the ball and say ‘go get me a basket’ in the final minutes of the game.

That’s what separates the likes of Tatum and Brown to the rest of the League.

Are we just doubling up on 2 guys that are very similar but lack the shot creation ability that All Stars have?

Are they just nothing more than premium 3 and D guys?

Would they ever develop into Tatum-lite over time?
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Cody is very good off the dribble. That's one of his strengths as a player. I think you are more referring to his lack of physical strength. That's why he's having issues gaining separation. But his actual handles? He absolutely has that and wiggle in his game. It's one of the things that make him a good prospect
 
Tony Jones said:
Cody is very good off the dribble. That's one of his strengths as a player. I think you are more referring to his lack of physical strength. That's why he's having issues gaining separation. But his actual handles? He absolutely has that and wiggle in his game. It's one of the things that make him a good prospect
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Wow Tony Jones is replying to my post!

I guess I was a little frustrated watching Hendricks being so 2-dimensional last season. Hence my concern.

I really respect your opinion so that is alleviating my concern somewhat to hear that Cody should be able to build on that going forward.

Can’t wait to him develop into a complete wing player in the near future.
 
The Midnight said:
Wow Tony Jones is replying to my post!

I guess I was a little frustrated watching Hendricks being so 2-dimensional last season. Hence my concern.

I really respect your opinion so that is alleviating my concern somewhat to hear that Cody should be able to build on that going forward.

Can’t wait to him develop into a complete wing player in the near future.
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Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate you
 
The Midnight said:
Yep if his shot creation is a bit better I think he’s easily top 3.

We just have to train him up now and hope he has the fire to keep improving that aspect of his game.
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Yup. If Williams has the fire in his belly and there’s an alpha-type personality somewhere in there, the kid has the type of potential that 5 years down the road, people will be asking “How did 9 teams miss on Cody Williams in such a bad draft?”.

Obviously we have no idea if he’ll ever realize all that potential, but this draft had 2, maybe 3 guys with franchise cornerstone potential and the Jazz got one of them by standing pat at 10.
 
The Midnight said:
Take a look in the clip, they’re developing skills. If he was elite at them he’d have gone in the top 3 in the draft.


View: https://youtu.be/7WRXshepUqc?si=GmhDrD88MK1z06w9
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ELITE? Yeah, no ****. He would’ve been universally known as the #1 pick.

He just needed to show that he could successfully do anything on the ball for people to salivate. That was not anything anyone was talking about with Hendricks. Williams is a big perimeter player, Hendricks’ attributes were mostly that of a stretch big.
 
The Midnight said:
Pretty sure Ainge didn’t waste a #9 pick in a stacked draft last year on an “off ball role player”.

Pretty sure he wants him to develop into much more than that.
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Off ball 3 and D guys are insanely valuable and that was always the expectation with Hendricks. We were hoping to get a really good switchy defender that can hit the 3 ball and finish at the rim when cutting to the hoop.
 
sip said:
Off ball 3 and D guys are insanely valuable and that was always the expectation with Hendricks. We were hoping to get a really good switchy defender that can hit the 3 ball and finish at the rim when cutting to the hoop.
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He’s also 3nD+ because he can protect the rim and switch across (at least 3, but eventually as many as 5) positions (saying nothing of the rebounding). Very short list of players that can just do those things and nothing else.

If Hendricks and Williams become more like each other (in the good ways) then we ****ing scored twice.
 
sip said:
Off ball 3 and D guys are insanely valuable and that was always the expectation with Hendricks. We were hoping to get a really good switchy defender that can hit the 3 ball and finish at the rim when cutting to the hoop.
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This.
I think we nailed it

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NUMBERICA said:
He’s also 3nD+ because he can protect the rim and switch across (at least 3, but eventually as many as 5) positions (saying nothing of the rebounding). Very short list of players that can just do those things and nothing else.

If Hendricks and Williams become more like each other (in the good ways) then we ****ing scored twice.
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His floor is 3&D
 
Cody is more like a less athletic version of Paul George when he first entered the league. He needed add more weight and did add more weight. Or Michael Finley.

Hendricks is more like a RoCo/longer but thinner PJ Tucker who’s never gonna be quick or skilled enough to play on the perimeter.
 
jom2003 said:
Cody is more like a less athletic version of Paul George when he first entered the league. He needed add more weight and did add more weight. Or Michael Finley.

Hendricks is more like a RoCo/longer but thinner PJ Tucker who’s never gonna be quick or skilled enough to play on the perimeter.
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I had the same thought about Paul George, except i had this impression that he was a lot more athletic entering the draft, hence his rise late during that draft.
 
NAOS_pt2 said:
wtf just happened here?

Heyo Tony, now you're doing straight-up community service around here?
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Tony had always been around Jazzfanz and had publically said that he enjoyed posting here.

I think it’s one of the best thing about the Jazzfanz right now being able to reach out to a plugged in source and get insights and clarifications on certain things relating to the Jazz.
 
The Midnight said:
Tony had always been around Jazzfanz and had publically said that he enjoyed posting here.

I think it’s one of the best thing about the Jazzfanz right now being able to reach out to a plugged in source and get insights and clarifications on certain things relating to the Jazz.
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it's really unfortunate that you came back and recommitted to this shtick.
 
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