The Biden Administration and All Things Politics

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So like 12-20 houses?

 

[fishonjazz]

So like 12-20 houses?

Maybe. Better than zero

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[fishonjazz]

Trump’s remarks about ratings offer a damning portrayal of the American press

Donald Trump’s comments about show business and ratings are particularly scathing in the context of the media’s obsession with whether Biden should drop out.

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Trump’s musings speak to the reality that he’s good for clicks. News platforms performed quite well during his term — perhaps because people felt a need to stay abreast of all the trauma induced by his illiberal reign, or simply whatever idiotic thing he said on any given day. It’s no surprise that Trump — a known huckster who loves being on camera — would understand this.

But his remarks seem particularly scathing in the current context, as we’re seeing many in the American pundit class clamoring for President Joe Biden to drop his re-election bid (with the subtext being that not doing so could fatally damage Democrats’ presidential hopes) after his debate performance.

It’s remarkable, really: At last week’s debate, Trump spewed lies and bigoted bile for 90 minutes while rarely answering the questions. Some might say those are signs of aging and mental decline; others might say they’re simply disqualifying. Nonetheless, the headlines can make it seem like Biden is the only one whose fitness for office deserves scrutiny.

Even after the conservative-dominated Supreme Court effectively authorized parts of Trump’s bigoted efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election — and potentially paved the way for him to assassinate political rivals — pieces on Biden’s future have been driving at least one prominent editorial section.

Depending where you get your news, it can feel like these calls for Biden to drop out have been more vigorous than the ones for Trump to not be a candidate in this race — the same candidate who played a central role in the Jan. 6 insurrection, who was found liable for sexual abuse, and who was convicted of 34 felony counts related to the 2016 election.


Trump tapped into how addicted our society is to toxic behavior and the media went right along with it. I bet Trump loved to watch keeping up with the Kardashians.


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[SteakNEggs]

Trump’s remarks about ratings offer a damning portrayal of the American press

Donald Trump’s comments about show business and ratings are particularly scathing in the context of the media’s obsession with whether Biden should drop out.

www.yahoo.com

Trump’s musings speak to the reality that he’s good for clicks. News platforms performed quite well during his term — perhaps because people felt a need to stay abreast of all the trauma induced by his illiberal reign, or simply whatever idiotic thing he said on any given day. It’s no surprise that Trump — a known huckster who loves being on camera — would understand this.

But his remarks seem particularly scathing in the current context, as we’re seeing many in the American pundit class clamoring for President Joe Biden to drop his re-election bid (with the subtext being that not doing so could fatally damage Democrats’ presidential hopes) after his debate performance.

It’s remarkable, really: At last week’s debate, Trump spewed lies and bigoted bile for 90 minutes while rarely answering the questions. Some might say those are signs of aging and mental decline; others might say they’re simply disqualifying. Nonetheless, the headlines can make it seem like Biden is the only one whose fitness for office deserves scrutiny.

Even after the conservative-dominated Supreme Court effectively authorized parts of Trump’s bigoted efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election — and potentially paved the way for him to assassinate political rivals — pieces on Biden’s future have been driving at least one prominent editorial section.

Depending where you get your news, it can feel like these calls for Biden to drop out have been more vigorous than the ones for Trump to not be a candidate in this race — the same candidate who played a central role in the Jan. 6 insurrection, who was found liable for sexual abuse, and who was convicted of 34 felony counts related to the 2016 election.


Trump tapped into how addicted our society is to toxic behavior and the media went right along with it. I bet Trump loved to watch keeping up with the Kardashians.


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Proves Trump correct by sharing literal propaganda and the very media he means lol. And funny how you bring up assassinating political opponents as you openly advocate for arresting political opponents and just 3 days ago you liked post where the poster and I were talking about how he wanted to LITERALLY assassinate Trump. Just like your boy GF did. I mean weren't you guys just hoping Trump died of a heart attack a week or two ago? It's ok for fish and co to talk assassination yet you blatantly lie yhat Trump will assassinate people. Melodrama and hypocrisy at its finest.

"Trump lied"... All politicians lie(remember Obama winning lie of the year) but did he s* all over our military by saying no one died on his watch? The exact same watch he looked at as 13 dead soldiers were escorted off of airplanes? You know the 13 soldiers that got blown to shreds because Biden ignored his own Generals? Crazy how y'all don't say about Biden lying just as much. Well not really, the hypocrisy in this forum is the worst I've ever seen. Ever.

Remember how angry you all got when some no name person said Trump said something bad about the military despite every single person there, even John Bolton who hates him, saying he didn't say it? You all are just easy to manipulate by the media Trump is talking about.

 

[RandyForRubio]

The power of the cult. This is one of the first times we've seen a cult be this closely intertwined in politics, which is why it has so much reach and power. But it's still a cult.

The power of the cult has people willing to vote for a senile geriatric who can’t function past 5 PM, and people willing to vote for a fraudster geriatric.

The power of the cult had people convinced Biden’s gaffes were just selective editing on clips rather than dementia, and any talk to potential dementia was ignored by the media because “that’s a right wing talking point.” Journalists literally said they weren’t even considering looking into Biden’s health because that’s what the right wingers were talking about! The power of the cult is pretty damn strong in both directions. Thriller nailed it earlier in this thread when he said Biden’s horrid debate didn’t matter, because people are going to vote the way they’re going to vote.

 

[LogGrad98]

Trump’s remarks about ratings offer a damning portrayal of the American press

Donald Trump’s comments about show business and ratings are particularly scathing in the context of the media’s obsession with whether Biden should drop out.

www.yahoo.com

Trump’s musings speak to the reality that he’s good for clicks. News platforms performed quite well during his term — perhaps because people felt a need to stay abreast of all the trauma induced by his illiberal reign, or simply whatever idiotic thing he said on any given day. It’s no surprise that Trump — a known huckster who loves being on camera — would understand this.

But his remarks seem particularly scathing in the current context, as we’re seeing many in the American pundit class clamoring for President Joe Biden to drop his re-election bid (with the subtext being that not doing so could fatally damage Democrats’ presidential hopes) after his debate performance.

It’s remarkable, really: At last week’s debate, Trump spewed lies and bigoted bile for 90 minutes while rarely answering the questions. Some might say those are signs of aging and mental decline; others might say they’re simply disqualifying. Nonetheless, the headlines can make it seem like Biden is the only one whose fitness for office deserves scrutiny.

Even after the conservative-dominated Supreme Court effectively authorized parts of Trump’s bigoted efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election — and potentially paved the way for him to assassinate political rivals — pieces on Biden’s future have been driving at least one prominent editorial section.

Depending where you get your news, it can feel like these calls for Biden to drop out have been more vigorous than the ones for Trump to not be a candidate in this race — the same candidate who played a central role in the Jan. 6 insurrection, who was found liable for sexual abuse, and who was convicted of 34 felony counts related to the 2016 election.


Trump tapped into how addicted our society is to toxic behavior and the media went right along with it. I bet Trump loved to watch keeping up with the Kardashians.


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He was indeed perfect for the destructive zeitgeist created by the wave of social media and how it so effectively accelerated the division inherent in our 2-party system. He is the demagogue some of the founding fathers warned against, and the political philosophers dating all the way back to Aristotle and Plato. Who knows where this ends up now. I'm afraid we are witnessing the Genesis of one of the worst eras in American history. Unless Biden jumps on this **** first and just assassinates Trump. Sometimes the ends justify the means.

 

[fishonjazz]

The power of the cult has people willing to vote for a senile geriatric who can’t function past 5 PM, and people willing to vote for a fraudster geriatric.

The power of the cult had people convinced Biden’s gaffes were just selective editing on clips rather than dementia, and any talk to potential dementia was ignored by the media because “that’s a right wing talking point.” Journalists literally said they weren’t even considering looking into Biden’s health because that’s what the right wingers were talking about! The power of the cult is pretty damn strong in both directions. Thriller nailed it earlier in this thread when he said Biden’s horrid debate didn’t matter, because people are going to vote the way they’re going to vote.

Weird how so many of these cultists want the cult leader to be eliminated after a poor debate. I know that I didn't vote for the cult leader in the primaries and was hoping that some random dude named Dean Phillips or something would beat him this time around and then I hoped that Nikki Hailey would get the Republican nomination so I could vote for a Republican over my cult leader.

Yet the non cultists will continue to support the non cult leader no matter how many scandals or crimes or gaffes or senior moments he has. Even when the non cult leader calls the non cultists sheep they just baa baa baa.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Weird how so many of these cultists want the cult leader to be eliminated after a poor debate. I know that I didn't vote for the cult leader in the primaries and was hoping that some random dude named Dean Phillips or something would beat him this time around and then I hoped that Nikki Hailey would get the Republican nomination so I could vote for a Republican over my cult leader.

Yet the non cultists will continue to support the non cult leader no matter how many scandals or crimes or gaffes or senior moments he has. Even when the non cult leader calls the non cultists sheep they just baa baa baa.

I understand that you’re not who I’m referring to with that post. I think you understand that you’re not the average Biden voter just like I’m not the average Trump voter. I’ll probably abstain from the presidential election tbh, all 3 current choices are putrid. That doesn’t change that the generalities around each party, and what I posted, is correct.

 

[fishonjazz]

I understand that you’re not who I’m referring to with that post. I think you understand that you’re not the average Biden voter just like I’m not the average Trump voter. I’ll probably abstain from the presidential election tbh, all 3 current choices are putrid. That doesn’t change that the generalities around each party, and what I posted, is correct.

But don't you see a difference in the two parties when one is freaking out about a bad debate and an old candidate while trump instigates an attack on the Capitol, gets convicted of a felony, loses sexual assault civil suit, loses another civil suit for corruption from his business, has the grab em by the ***** comment, inject disinfectant comment, sharpie gate, nuke the hurricane, trump university, trump foundation, soldiers from hundreds of years ago storming non existent airports, confusing Nancy pelosi with Nikki Hailey and Biden with Obama and getting his doctors name wrong, and i could kill someone on 5th avenue and not lose any supporters, and stealing from people with his build the wall fund and stop the steal fund, and blackmailing a foreign leader to investigate his political opponent, and not following the subpoenas request to return stolen documents, and selling Bibles and cologne and trading cards and coins, and disrespecting the national anthem.
I mean on and on and on and the Republican party and voters just fall in line. Trump wasn't the incumbent. There was an actual primary. Nikki Hailey was right there. No one from the Republican party had a sliver of a chance of beating trump.

A bad debate has the Democratic party and voters freaking out.

All that stuff from trump doesn't even make a dent in his popularity. That's some cult **** man. You have to see that.



Many democratics (most all of them I bet) will reluctantly vote for Biden. Millions of Republican voters will excitedly vote for Trump and think he is the best president in the history of the United States of America. Huge difference there. He gets compared to Christ on a regular basis by his voters lol

I went to a family reunion yesterday and was talking to my cousin who grew up in a home in Taylorsville (he lives in park city now).
He drove by his old house just to see if it had changed much or whatever. The owner had spray painted a huge red TRUMP across the front of their home. Biden voters ain't doing that crazy ****.
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[RandyForRubio]

Stupid website. I had a long reply written out and the stupid site refreshed on my phone and it’s gone. I’ll try again later.

 

[SteakNEggs]

But don't you see a difference in the two parties when one is freaking out about a bad debate and an old candidate while trump instigates an attack on the Capitol, gets convicted of a felony, loses sexual assault civil suit, loses another civil suit for corruption from his business, has the grab em by the ***** comment, inject disinfectant comment, sharpie gate, nuke the hurricane, trump university, trump foundation, soldiers from hundreds of years ago storming non existent airports, confusing Nancy pelosi with Nikki Hailey and Biden with Obama and getting his doctors name wrong, and i could kill someone on 5th avenue and not lose any supporters, and stealing from people with his build the wall fund and stop the steal fund, and blackmailing a foreign leader to investigate his political opponent, and not following the subpoenas request to return stolen documents, and selling Bibles and cologne and trading cards and coins, and disrespecting the national anthem.
I mean on and on and on and the Republican party and voters just fall in line. Trump wasn't the incumbent. There was an actual primary. Nikki Hailey was right there. No one from the Republican party had a sliver of a chance of beating trump.

A bad debate has the Democratic party and voters freaking out.

All that stuff from trump doesn't even make a dent in his popularity. That's some cult **** man. You have to see that.



Many democratics (most all of them I bet) will reluctantly vote for Biden. Millions of Republican voters will excitedly vote for Trump and think he is the best president in the history of the United States of America. Huge difference there. He gets compared to Christ on a regular basis by his voters lol

I went to a family reunion yesterday and was talking to my cousin who grew up in a home in Taylorsville (he lives in park city now).
He drove by his old house just to see if it had changed much or whatever. The owner had spray painted a huge red TRUMP across the front of their home. Biden voters ain't doing that crazy ****.
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I post how Biden inappropriately showered with his daughter and did you say a word? Biden bombs a family of 12 killing 9 children for nothing more than optics and you don't say a word. Biden completely surrenders Afghanistan where 13 soldiers were blown to shreds because he refused to listen to his intelligence you stay silent. Biden then looks at his watch as 13 dead US soldiers are carted off an airplane and you don't say a word. Biden has a history of racism and you stay silent. Biden has also been accused of rape and you stay silent. Remember this is the guy that sniffs little girls and you voted for him. Biden literally gets checks from Chinese entities to his address and you don't say a word. You actually hide it. Biden says his Uncle was eaten by Cannibals, not a word. Bidens own DoJ defies supoenas to hand over his criminal tapes of him stealing classified documents and nothing. Biden on video admits he will withhold billions of dollars from Ukraine and you ignore it. On video. Biden sends his 3rd in command of the DoJ to arrest Trump and you celebrate. Remember when you all were rioting killing kids and you supported it? How many people died in your riots? How many cops? How many federal buildings did you burn and break into? What about insurrecting city blocks where 2 teenagers ended up dead? That was called, and I quote "the summer of love" by you. We are not in 3 wars right now. Inflation is still rising. Credit card debt is at an all-time high because people can't afford basic essentials. Democrats are openly rioting and shutting down schools because their hatred for Jews. Lets not forget how funny Alt-left Democrats, like Alt-Alt-Alt left think raping a child is.


And btw, Trump was mocking Nikki Haley when he called her Pelosi. I'm not surprised you are too shallow to understand what he meant.

 

[fishonjazz]

Stupid website. I had a long reply written out and the stupid site refreshed on my phone and it’s gone. I’ll try again later.

I hate it when that happens

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[SteakNEggs]

Here's Bidens new excuse lol. I didn't see this blatant lie during the debate as it was split screen. Can any of you like fish who claim to dislike lying show me where this happened? Or is lying and arresting political opponents only ok when your candidate literally does it? I was actually impressed Trump was so calm and collective. I honestly think he has learned to tone it down and not be so confrontational this go around. He's still Trump but less loudmouth. I was impressed with CNN too. I didn't think for a second, they would let a fair debate happen.

"I realized that, even when I was answering a question and they turned his mic off, he was still shouting, and I let it distract me. I'm not blaming it on that. But I realized that I just wasn't in control," Biden told ABC's George Stephanopoulos on Friday evening.

 

[RandyForRubio]

I hate it when that happens

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Sonofabitch it happened again lol. I’ll try to keep it short, I’d love to expound but it’ll have to wait until I’m around a computer.

It’s much more than a bad debate. It’s a geriatric with dementia that didn’t just develop in the last two weeks. It’s his staff, the DNC, and many journalists covering, and denying, that there has been any mental slippage. I agree that Trump’s character should limit him from being a candidate, I think his age should as well, but mentally he’s a hell of a lot better than Joe. It was glaringly obvious that he isn’t mentally capable of being the president of the United States, it’s glaringly obvious this issue didn’t just arise, and it’s glaringly obvious that everybody around him, staff and media, is very aware of it and has been denying it for years. If that’s not cultish, I don’t know what is. It’s not the cult of Biden, it’s the cult of “support whatever democrat is in power no matter what.”

 

[fishonjazz]

Sonofabitch it happened again lol. I’ll try to keep it short, I’d love to expound but it’ll have to wait until I’m around a computer.

It’s much more than a bad debate. It’s a geriatric with dementia that didn’t just develop in the last two weeks. It’s his staff, the DNC, and many journalists covering, and denying, that there has been any mental slippage. I agree that Trump’s character should limit him from being a candidate, I think his age should as well, but mentally he’s a hell of a lot better than Joe. It was glaringly obvious that he isn’t mentally capable of being the president of the United States, it’s glaringly obvious this issue didn’t just arise, and it’s glaringly obvious that everybody around him, staff and media, is very aware of it and has been denying it for years. If that’s not cultish, I don’t know what is. It’s not the cult of Biden, it’s the cult of “support whatever democrat is in power no matter what.”

It isn't just about being a candidate. That's not what we are discussing here. We were discussing cult behavior from the supporters (voters) of the 2 candidates. It's comparing trump to Christ. Believing he is the best president in the history of the US. Buying all his merch. Spray painting your house.
You know, crazy culty ****.

I have long said that I get voting for Trump. You hate Democrats/libs. You think he will fix the economy and end wars. You believe he is good for your wallet. You think he will champion the causes you like (religion etc). You think he will fix the border. You think Biden worse.
I get that. I understand reluctantly voting for him. But there are many who act like trump is an amazing human. Best president ever. Christ like. Sent from God. That is some culty ****. I don't see that from Biden supporters. Do you?

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[SteakNEggs]

It isn't just about being a candidate. That's not what we are discussing here. We were discussing cult behavior from the supporters (voters) of the 2 candidates. It's comparing trump to Christ. Believing he is the best president in the history of the US. Buying all his merch. Spray painting your house.
You know, crazy culty ****.

I have long said that I get voting for Trump. You hate Democrats/libs. You think he will fix the economy and end wars. You believe he is good for your wallet. You think he will champion the causes you like (religion etc). You think he will fix the border. You think Biden worse.
I get that. I understand reluctantly voting for him. But there are many who act like trump is an amazing human. Best president ever. Christ like. Sent from God. That is some culty ****. I don't see that from Biden supporters. Do you?

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I mean... You obsess about Trump far more than any other person here, honestly more than any person I've ever met. I'll exaggerate at times but I'm being 100% honest here. It's been every...single...day... for almost 8 years with you. Trump basically is your Christ metaphorically.

 

[SteakNEggs]

It isn't just about being a candidate. That's not what we are discussing here. We were discussing cult behavior from the supporters (voters) of the 2 candidates. It's comparing trump to Christ. Believing he is the best president in the history of the US. Buying all his merch. Spray painting your house.
You know, crazy culty ****.

I have long said that I get voting for Trump. You hate Democrats/libs. You think he will fix the economy and end wars. You believe he is good for your wallet. You think he will champion the causes you like (religion etc). You think he will fix the border. You think Biden worse.
I get that. I understand reluctantly voting for him. But there are many who act like trump is an amazing human. Best president ever. Christ like. Sent from God. That is some culty ****. I don't see that from Biden supporters. Do you?

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Oh and he did end wars, he did fix the economy for me personally. I bought my rental home @ 3.2%. when the housing market was fire. Now I want another but no way I'm buying a home @7+%. Gas was around $2.50. Border crossings were at an all-time low. Food was affordable(**** the poors huh fish?). Hell at my position I have watched water heaters go up over 25%, wire is insane, lumber has gone down but it's still way too much, snowblowers are up 20%, mowers are up around 10%, hell even cutting keys was $1.99 for 10+ years, now they are $3.59, today alone I had to mark up my Behr paint another dollar. What used to be around $28 is now as of today $48.98. They wanted me to up my wire another .10 a foot but then I lose a competitive advantage. The dollar store is now $1.25 back in my day that place kept me afloat. Literally everything is more expensive. I would love to invite any of you to come to my store and I could show you how absolutely crazy everything is as you seem to not have the common sense to see it. I would walk you through and let you talk to my clientele that have to pay far more for everything than they used to. The illegals that have successful businesses you claim I hate... I would openly ask you to call them cultist too for just trying to live.

PS... If anyone wants to question my numbers I will gladly show receipts...... Just for fun I looked up a 50 gallon electric water heater we sold on 7/5/18 and It was $399, today that same water heater is $569. That is just one single item... Now think about every...single...item... you buy inflating like that. Like I said even the dollar store has went up 25%. This is every item you are buying under Fish's vote. Keep in mind... Fish says he bought 2 new vehicles... What he doesn't know is that he's paid an average of 15% more for those since Trump........ How you all are so quick to ignore this baffles me. The Trump cultism has really made common sense all but non-existent with you Alt-Left Democrats.

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[SteakNEggs]

I mean I just got off work and went to Smith's to get some steaks for the fam. The cheapest one I could find was $14 for a terrible looking Ribeye. Tell me I'm lying... This same steak was in the $8 range under Trump...

Hell I dont drink soda but I noticed it was $9.99 for a 12 pack before fresh values and $7.99 after. I remember it being in $5.99 range.

 

[Bucknutz]

It isn't just about being a candidate. That's not what we are discussing here. We were discussing cult behavior from the supporters (voters) of the 2 candidates. It's comparing trump to Christ. Believing he is the best president in the history of the US. Buying all his merch. Spray painting your house.
You know, crazy culty ****.

I have long said that I get voting for Trump. You hate Democrats/libs. You think he will fix the economy and end wars. You believe he is good for your wallet. You think he will champion the causes you like (religion etc). You think he will fix the border. You think Biden worse.
I get that. I understand reluctantly voting for him. But there are many who act like trump is an amazing human. Best president ever. Christ like. Sent from God. That is some culty ****. I don't see that from Biden supporters. Do you?

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Great summary of why independents and others would vote for Trump over Biden, while not being Maga.

I wouldn’t say Biden has those types of supporters but the democrats definitely have those type of supporters. A more traditional liberal like Bill Maher has been pointing this out for a while now. You can absolutely see more extremests from each party and the more moderates that point it out get blasted by the extremests.

There are more moderates on the left, the independents and moderates on the right, which if given a qualified third moderate option, would vote this way. I believe they just need to be a bit more socially liberal.

 

[fishonjazz]

Great summary of why independents and others would vote for Trump over Biden, while not being Maga.

I wouldn’t say Biden has those types of supporters but the democrats definitely have those type of supporters. A more traditional liberal like Bill Maher has been pointing this out for a while now. You can absolutely see more extremests from each party and the more moderates that point it out get blasted by the extremests.

There are more moderates on the left, the independents and moderates on the right, which if given a qualified third moderate option, would vote this way. I believe they just need to be a bit more socially liberal.

Do the Democrats have those types of supporters?
Were there people comparing Hillary or Bernie or al gore or whoever to Jesus Christ? Were the Democrats saying that these candidates were sent by God to fight the satanic and evil cabal? Were Democrats spray painting their houses with the names of these people? Were Democrats supporting these candidates passionately after similar amounts of scandals and court losses as trump? Did democratic candidate supporters ever attack the Capitol to try to prevent the certification of an election?
Maybe they were and I just missed it. I have no idea.

I do think it's common practice for both parties to spin things. To lie to us. For voters to overlook some flaws.

I think that the maga trump supporters are unique in recent political history though. I have never seen anything like it.

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