BENTLEY
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Oh, I hadn’t heard that. Everything taken with a grain of salt. Shrug.
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Oh, I hadn’t heard that. Everything taken with a grain of salt. Shrug.
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BENTLEY
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I don’t know. But I can understand why many consider yesterdays close call as “miraculous.” It’s impressive. Glory to God.
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It's not really though. We live in America. People are shot and live literally every day. Lots of people. I have been shot and lived.
It's a pretty crazy scenario due to the context of the shooting but the fact that a dude 160 yard away who was in a hurry to shoot only grazed trump isn't very miraculous really.
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Ok. You’re entitled to your opinion.
Let’s call it a night huh? I’m bored and tryna watch the Jazz summer league game from yesterday
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He's a troll. His programming is to say whatever gets you riled up. Notice you started ignoring steak and the others then conveniently Bentley pops up like a floating turd that refuses to be flushed?
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They aren't even entertaining to interact with. After a few back and forth they have exhausted their entire playbook of "nuh uh".
Sink it like the Bismarck
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Democrats fret about the political fallout from the Trump rally shooting
“The presidential contest ended last night,” said a veteran Democratic consultant.
www.nbcnews.com
—-“We’re so beyond f---ed,” one longtime Democratic insider said, noting that the image of Trump thrusting his fist in the air, with blood dramatically smeared across his face, will be indelible.
—-The presidential contest ended last night,” said a veteran Democratic consultant, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to give a candid assessment of his own party’s standing less than four months before the election.
“Now it’s time to focus on keeping the Senate and trying to pick up the House,” he said. “The only positive thing to come out of last night for Democrats is we are no longer talking about Joe Biden’s age today.”
—-One Democratic strategist who has worked on multiple presidential campaigns and on Capitol Hill said that the physical targeting of Trump robs Biden of his main argument against the former president. Biden, the strategist pointed out, has tried to convince voters that Trump is so extreme that he presents a threat to democracy.
“That message is dead,” the strategist said, after a gunman tried to kill the presumptive nominee of one of the two major parties. The bullet that struck Trump “probably saved Biden’s nomination” by freezing Democratic calls for him to step aside and “doomed his re-election.”
—-For one veteran of Democratic congressional campaigns, that picture says it all.
“The clear effect of this assassination attempt is that it officially thrust Donald Trump out of politics and into martyrdom,” this person said. “They’re framing this as an attack on MAGA and not on Trump — even more powerful. This is literally biblical stuff we’re talking about.”
Democrats will “never be able to compete with that level of enthusiasm among base voters,” the person added. “So yeah, we’re even more f---ed with Biden. ... And relying on Trump to be a galvanizing, unifying enemy won’t work as well.”
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Last millisecond movement that ‘saved Donald Trump’s life’ shown in slo-mo footage of assassination attempt
Although Donald Trump said 'God' is the reason he is still alive after Saturday's shooting, it might also be thanks to something else he did
According to reports, Trump reckons a slight head tilt while he was talking meant the bullet caught his ear, rather than the back of his head.
While giving his speech, he says he turned his head to look at and refer to the illegal immigration statistics that were being displayed on a big screen.
He reportedly told former White House doctor Ronny Jackson: “That chart that I was going over saved my life. The border patrol saved my life.
“If I hadn’t pointed at that chart and turned my head to look at it, that bullet would have hit me right in the head."
“The image of Trump raising a defiant fist as Secret Service agents bundled him away made front pages around the world and spread virally on social media.
“A lot of people say it’s the most iconic photo they’ve ever seen,” the former president tells the Post, adding, “They’re right and I didn’t die. Usually you have to die to have an iconic picture.”
'God saved Trump,' supporters say, and Trump agrees
Trump posted on Truth Social the day after the shooting that 'it was God alone who prevented the unthinkable.'
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Bound to happen: it’s not a political battle. It’s spiritual….even after 1/6, even after attempting to remain in power illegally, God still believes that we need Trump. I’ll say the lord works in mysterious ways, lol….
“On Fox, Hannity said, “could have been a very different story tonight and it’s chilling,” in his set up to Huckabee, an ordained minister who is a former pastor and a former president of the Arkansas Baptist Convention.
“I think we have to be very aware of the fact that God’s hand was on Donald Trump tonight,” Huckabee said. “I’ve been saying God’s hand has been on Donald Trump ever since he came down the escalator. Every possible way to destroy him has been used, every possible way. They’ve gone after him in criminal court, they’ve gone after him in civil court, they’ve gone after him with fake impeachments, with the most ridiculous charges thrown at him time and time again. He’s the most resilient man I’ve ever seen. I have to believe that God spared Donald Trump today because he knows we need Donald Trump to lead this nation back to a place where people could live their lives in freedom and respect and responsibility and we haven’t had that and it’s time we get back to it. I’ll get mocked for saying this, but the battle we’re in, Sean, is not political, it’s spiritual.”
View: https://x.com/berniemoreno/status/1812316001683276163
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Last millisecond movement that ‘saved Donald Trump’s life’ shown in slo-mo footage of assassination attempt
Although Donald Trump said 'God' is the reason he is still alive after Saturday's shooting, it might also be thanks to something else he didwww.ladbible.com
According to reports, Trump reckons a slight head tilt while he was talking meant the bullet caught his ear, rather than the back of his head.
While giving his speech, he says he turned his head to look at and refer to the illegal immigration statistics that were being displayed on a big screen.
He reportedly told former White House doctor Ronny Jackson: “That chart that I was going over saved my life. The border patrol saved my life.
“If I hadn’t pointed at that chart and turned my head to look at it, that bullet would have hit me right in the head."
“The image of Trump raising a defiant fist as Secret Service agents bundled him away made front pages around the world and spread virally on social media.
“A lot of people say it’s the most iconic photo they’ve ever seen,” the former president tells the Post, adding, “They’re right and I didn’t die. Usually you have to die to have an iconic picture.”
'God saved Trump,' supporters say, and Trump agrees
Trump posted on Truth Social the day after the shooting that 'it was God alone who prevented the unthinkable.'
Bound to happen: it’s not a political battle. It’s spiritual….even after 1/6, even after attempting to remain in power illegally, God still believes that we need Trump. I’ll say the lord works in mysterious ways, lol….
“On Fox, Hannity said, “could have been a very different story tonight and it’s chilling,” in his set up to Huckabee, an ordained minister who is a former pastor and a former president of the Arkansas Baptist Convention.
“I think we have to be very aware of the fact that God’s hand was on Donald Trump tonight,” Huckabee said. “I’ve been saying God’s hand has been on Donald Trump ever since he came down the escalator. Every possible way to destroy him has been used, every possible way. They’ve gone after him in criminal court, they’ve gone after him in civil court, they’ve gone after him with fake impeachments, with the most ridiculous charges thrown at him time and time again. He’s the most resilient man I’ve ever seen. I have to believe that God spared Donald Trump today because he knows we need Donald Trump to lead this nation back to a place where people could live their lives in freedom and respect and responsibility and we haven’t had that and it’s time we get back to it. I’ll get mocked for saying this, but the battle we’re in, Sean, is not political, it’s spiritual.”
View: https://x.com/berniemoreno/status/1812316001683276163
Yup, we're ****ed.
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The Gunman and the Would-Be Dictator
Violence stalks the president who has rejoiced in violence to others.
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When a madman hammered nearly to death the husband of then–House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Donald Trump jeered and mocked. One of Trump’s sons and other close Trump supporters avidly promoted false claims that Paul Pelosi had somehow brought the onslaught upon himself through a sexual misadventure.
After authorities apprehended a right-wing-extremist plot to abduct Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, Trump belittled the threat at a rally. He disparaged Whitmer as a political enemy. His supporters chanted “Lock her up.” Trump laughed and replied, “Lock them all up.”
Fascism feasts on violence. In the years since his own supporters attacked the Capitol to overturn the 2020 election—many of them threatening harm to Speaker Pelosi and Vice President Mike Pence—Trump has championed the invaders, would-be kidnappers, and would-be murderers as martyrs and hostages. He has vowed to pardon them if returned to office. His own staffers have testified to the glee with which Trump watched the mayhem on television.
Fascist movements are secular religions. Like all religions, they offer martyrs as their proof of truth. The Mussolini movement in Italy built imposing monuments to its fallen comrades. The Trump movement now improves on that: The leader himself will be the martyr in chief, his own blood the basis for his bid for power and vengeance.
The 2024 election was already shaping up as a symbolic contest between an elderly and weakening liberalism too frail and uncertain to protect itself and an authoritarian, reactionary movement ready to burst every barrier and trash every institution. To date, Trump has led only a minority of U.S. voters, but that minority’s passion and audacity have offset what it lacks in numbers. After the shooting, Trump and his backers hope to use the iconography of a bloody ear and face, raised fist, and call to “Fight!” to summon waverers to their cause of installing Trump as an anti-constitutional ruler, exempted from ordinary law by his allies on the Supreme Court.
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First QAnon. Now BlueAnon.
Minutes after Saturday’s shooting at a Trump rally in Butler, Pa., liberals began flooding social media platforms with conspiracy theories.
They claimed the blood on former president Donald Trump’s ear was from a theatrical gel pack; that the shooting was a “false flag,” perhaps coordinated by the Secret Service in collaboration with the Trump campaign; that the scene of a bloodied Trump raising his fist under an American flag was “#staged.”
“When did the Secret Service start allowing the President under duress to tell them ‘to wait’, then stand up to be seen by the crowd fist-pumping?” one user posted on X. “Can you blame me for thinking this is fake?”
The shooting threw into overdrive a phenomenon dubbed “BlueAnon” — a play on the right-wing conspiracy theory QAnon — that refers to liberal conspiracy theories online. As more Americans lose trust in mainstream institutions and turn to partisan commentators and influencers for information, experts say they are seeing a big uptick in the manufacture and spread of BlueAnon conspiracy theories, a sign that the communal warping of reality is spreading well beyond the right.
“The good-versus-evil paradigm of QAnon has really taken hold of the anti-Trump movement and you’re seeing two sides that feel like they are fighting a battle between good and evil,” said Mike Rothschild, author of “The Storm Is Upon Us: How QAnon Became a Movement, Cult and Conspiracy Theory of Everything.” “It’s coming from major leftist and liberal ‘resistance’ influencers who believe that Trump is so devious that he’d fake his own assassination attempt in order to help his campaign.”
Minutes after Saturday’s shooting at a Trump rally in Butler, Pa., liberals began flooding social media platforms with conspiracy theories.
They claimed the blood on former president Donald Trump’s ear was from a theatrical gel pack; that the shooting was a “false flag,” perhaps coordinated by the Secret Service in collaboration with the Trump campaign; that the scene of a bloodied Trump raising his fist under an American flag was “#staged.”
“When did the Secret Service start allowing the President under duress to tell them ‘to wait’, then stand up to be seen by the crowd fist-pumping?” one user posted on X. “Can you blame me for thinking this is fake?”
The shooting threw into overdrive a phenomenon dubbed “BlueAnon” — a play on the right-wing conspiracy theory QAnon — that refers to liberal conspiracy theories online. As more Americans lose trust in mainstream institutions and turn to partisan commentators and influencers for information, experts say they are seeing a big uptick in the manufacture and spread of BlueAnon conspiracy theories, a sign that the communal warping of reality is spreading well beyond the right.
“The good-versus-evil paradigm of QAnon has really taken hold of the anti-Trump movement and you’re seeing two sides that feel like they are fighting a battle between good and evil,” said Mike Rothschild, author of “The Storm Is Upon Us: How QAnon Became a Movement, Cult and Conspiracy Theory of Everything.” “It’s coming from major leftist and liberal ‘resistance’ influencers who believe that Trump is so devious that he’d fake his own assassination attempt in order to help his campaign.”
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Duck hunting. bb's from a shotgun shell shot by another hunter bounced off the water and came through the reeds where I was sitting.
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Oh, that must have hurt.
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So God saved trump and chose not to save the deceased from that day.Last millisecond movement that ‘saved Donald Trump’s life’ shown in slo-mo footage of assassination attempt
Although Donald Trump said 'God' is the reason he is still alive after Saturday's shooting, it might also be thanks to something else he did
According to reports, Trump reckons a slight head tilt while he was talking meant the bullet caught his ear, rather than the back of his head.
While giving his speech, he says he turned his head to look at and refer to the illegal immigration statistics that were being displayed on a big screen.
He reportedly told former White House doctor Ronny Jackson: “That chart that I was going over saved my life. The border patrol saved my life.
“If I hadn’t pointed at that chart and turned my head to look at it, that bullet would have hit me right in the head."
“The image of Trump raising a defiant fist as Secret Service agents bundled him away made front pages around the world and spread virally on social media.
“A lot of people say it’s the most iconic photo they’ve ever seen,” the former president tells the Post, adding, “They’re right and I didn’t die. Usually you have to die to have an iconic picture.”
'God saved Trump,' supporters say, and Trump agrees
Trump posted on Truth Social the day after the shooting that 'it was God alone who prevented the unthinkable.'
Bound to happen: it’s not a political battle. It’s spiritual….even after 1/6, even after attempting to remain in power illegally, God still believes that we need Trump. I’ll say the lord works in mysterious ways, lol….
“On Fox, Hannity said, “could have been a very different story tonight and it’s chilling,” in his set up to Huckabee, an ordained minister who is a former pastor and a former president of the Arkansas Baptist Convention.
“I think we have to be very aware of the fact that God’s hand was on Donald Trump tonight,” Huckabee said. “I’ve been saying God’s hand has been on Donald Trump ever since he came down the escalator. Every possible way to destroy him has been used, every possible way. They’ve gone after him in criminal court, they’ve gone after him in civil court, they’ve gone after him with fake impeachments, with the most ridiculous charges thrown at him time and time again. He’s the most resilient man I’ve ever seen. I have to believe that God spared Donald Trump today because he knows we need Donald Trump to lead this nation back to a place where people could live their lives in freedom and respect and responsibility and we haven’t had that and it’s time we get back to it. I’ll get mocked for saying this, but the battle we’re in, Sean, is not political, it’s spiritual.”
View: https://x.com/berniemoreno/status/1812316001683276163
I wonder how their families feel about that.
Also it isn't the head tilt that saved him. It's the policeman going up the ladder to stop the shooter, causing the shooter to be distracted and swing his gun that was aimed at trump over to the policeman and then back to trump again and have to rush his shots.
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