This thread will be fun to bump in 4 years when hes one of the more unique role players in the NBA
Kyle Filipowski's Road to Being a 7' Playmaker
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Has anyone ever seen a post from tremendous upside that actually mentions a players upside?
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Im just surprised more people arent genuinely excited with Filipowski's skillset as it is very unique. You dont just see guys his size handle and make the passes he has made in their first pro games.
He really should just change his username to tremendous downside. That would be funny and we'd all think more of his posts. Do it TD!
Isaiah 1:13
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Flip will be fine, he has great fundamentals. I hear the Olynyk comparison but think Flip still has a ways to go.
Reasonably pleased with our haul but taking Williams over Buzelis will undoubtedly be a big mistake.
Reasonably pleased with our haul but taking Williams over Buzelis will undoubtedly be a big mistake.
Buzelis sounds determined and confident:
Matas Buzelis: 'I feel like I work harder than anybody in this draft class'
Chicago Bulls’ rookie Matas Buzelis generates excitement with his versatility and high basketball IQ. At 6-foot-10, he combines size, skill, and athleticism, making him a valuable addition to…
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Douchebag K
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disagree Williams will be an all star
Isaiah 1:13
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Sam Mitchell called ROY today during the Chicago Detroit game! Very skilled and physically ready imo.Buzelis sounds determined and confident:
Matas Buzelis: 'I feel like I work harder than anybody in this draft class'
Chicago Bulls’ rookie Matas Buzelis generates excitement with his versatility and high basketball IQ. At 6-foot-10, he combines size, skill, and athleticism, making him a valuable addition to…
Isaiah 1:13
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I’m not saying he won’t get there. He definitely needs to bulk up though. I think he’s maybe two years away, provided that actually happens.
Flip had so far shown that he’s:
- not very athletic
- not all that tough physically
- slow on defense (basically a traffic cone at times)
- not big enough to guard 5s and not quick enough to guard 4s
- doesn’t hustle on defense
- doesn’t have a consistent 3 point shot (yet)
To me there are lots of concerns there, things he needs to work on physically and mentally.
But all Cy could say is “ohhhhhh… but he can passssss”
Gee dude, we get you’re a contrarian, but maybe take look at the whole picture once in a while?
- not very athletic
- not all that tough physically
- slow on defense (basically a traffic cone at times)
- not big enough to guard 5s and not quick enough to guard 4s
- doesn’t hustle on defense
- doesn’t have a consistent 3 point shot (yet)
To me there are lots of concerns there, things he needs to work on physically and mentally.
But all Cy could say is “ohhhhhh… but he can passssss”
Gee dude, we get you’re a contrarian, but maybe take look at the whole picture once in a while?
Douchebag K
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oh man i mean like 5 years down the road I think he'll actually struggle this year
He had a few days after New Years where he tried to be positive. But I think its all an act from him. He just tries to say the most silly things he can to work people up. Either that or he is just a self loathing person who want to complain and be woah is me everything sucks. His posts are easy for me to just scroll past, no reason to read them for me.
The thing I'm most surprised with is... he actually moves his feet well on defense. His defense is not polished or anything, but there are things for a coaching staff to work with. The offensive flashes was the whole reason he was considered a high level prospect at one point. But yeah... I'm intrigued. No guarantee he will pan out, but he has ball skills, he has some passing chops... can he shoot it? Can he finish?
Can Flip become a good, impactful NBA player? Sure. Like everybody else drafted in the NBA. All of these prospect showed some flashes and the potential to become a quality NBA player - if everything goes right and they successfully develop a bunch of skills and abilities they currently lack. That is why they got drafted. Is he likely to become a good NBA player? No. Second-round players rarely do.
There was a lot of comparisons to Olynyk in this thread. Well, Olynyk was drafted 13 in 2013, not 32. And none of the players drafted then in the second round amounted to anything in the NBA: the best of them was Raul Neto.
There was a lot of comparisons to Olynyk in this thread. Well, Olynyk was drafted 13 in 2013, not 32. And none of the players drafted then in the second round amounted to anything in the NBA: the best of them was Raul Neto.
The Jazz drafted 27 player in the second round since 2000. Only three of them amounted to anything: Mo Williams, Paul Millsap, and Jarron Collins. So, about one out of ten is becoming a good rotational player. On the other hand, all 16 second-round Jazz picks since 2010 were busts, so the Jazz are overdue for finally finding something in there.
Like you said we are overdue. Also, there is a difference between pick 32 and 40+
Are you sure about that? Mo Williams was drafted at 47, Paul Millsap at 47, Jarron Collins at 52. All of the Jazz second-round picks in the 30s were busts.
I'm almost positive that if you looked at the history of the draft you would find a much higher percentage of rotation players that were picked in the 30's vs the 40's+
The truth is our previous success rate on second round picks has nothing to do with Flip.