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Kyle Filipowski's Road to Being a 7' Playmaker

YoungJefe said:
Kid is the truth
People forget that he was supposed to be the NCAA POY going into his sophomore season at Duke and was viewed as a lotto guy

Didn't really improve as a sophomore although he was still really good and then there was drama surrounding him during the pre-draft process
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He improved a ton his 2nd year. He had a double hip surgery that made him markedly more athletic
 
It was pretty disappointing to watch LAC not guard Flip on the perimeter last night. I thought he would get a little more respect. Now he needs to start hitting open shots.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
It was pretty disappointing to watch LAC not guard Flip on the perimeter last night. I thought he would get a little more respect. Now he needs to start hitting open shots.
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Well it actually meant he was in the scouting report, and thus they gave him more respect than for some of our other rookies. They didnt do the same for Cody, even if they maybe should have.

Its a good thing. It will push development out of him, if others follow suite.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
It was pretty disappointing to watch LAC not guard Flip on the perimeter last night. I thought he would get a little more respect. Now he needs to start hitting open shots.
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Exactly.

This is not a case of "He's so good in other ways, he doesn't need to be a good shooter". Yes he does. Probably more than anyone else on the roster.

As I said earlier – if he becomes a credible 3pt threat (not very likely), he can be a 15 year NBA starter. If he doesn't, he's Luke Walton. A guy with a nice basketball mind and a knack for making creative plays, but always hamstrung by the fact that he can't shoot.
 
He has been a low volume 3 pt shooter thus far in his career. 35% in college. 33% NBA thus far.

Just for comparison sake. Kelly O only shot 30% from 3 his final year also on low volume.

Flip's release is smooth. Not worried. Finding his way rookie year. Can anyone imagine a better situation for a ~7’ rookie who can shoot to learn from the best ever at it?
 
SoberasHotRod said:
It was pretty disappointing to watch LAC not guard Flip on the perimeter last night. I thought he would get a little more respect. Now he needs to start hitting open shots.
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It's going to be common. Some teams will want a guy at the screen and some will play drop. He doesn't have to shoot to make people guard out there. If your DHO partner is dangerous, they will need the big up. If you make good reads or drive well off space, you will be guarded.

He's going to hit some and he's going to miss some. If teams want to leave him wide open they are playing with fire. Yeah, he might miss, but generally NBA teams don't like giving up wide open 3s to anyone who is a decent shooter
 
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LogGrad98 said:
He needs to watch a ton of film of Olynyk. That is the archetype he needs to strive for, a better version of KO would be phenomenal.
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Very true, but Olynyk's scoring was always an underrated side of his game anyway. He had his quirks, but Kelly was great at finding unlikely ways of putting the ball in the basket under pressure. Most of that is stuff you can't teach.

Flip's best NBA attribute, by far, is his passing. He's an intuitive facilitator, like Jokic (lower level of course). It's a different type of skill than scoring - a scorer needs to avoid defensive attention, whereas a passer needs it and uses it. Turning himself into enough of a threat is what will make or break Flip.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
Very true, but Olynyk's scoring was always an underrated side of his game anyway. He had his quirks, but Kelly was great at finding unlikely ways of putting the ball in the basket under pressure. Most of that is stuff you can't teach.

Flip's best NBA attribute, by far, is his passing. He's an intuitive facilitator, like Jokic. It's a different type of skill than scoring - a scorer needs to avoid defensive attention, whereas a passer needs it and uses it. Turning himself into enough of a threat is what will make or break Flip.
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The things I want him to get from Olynyk is decision-making. KO was great at knowing what to do for the best play in the moment. Whether it was pass, score, set up another play, etc.
 
zags422 said:
He has been a low volume 3 pt shooter thus far in his career. 35% in college. 33% NBA thus far.

Just for comparison sake. Kelly O only shot 30% from 3 his final year also on low volume.

Flip's release is smooth. Not worried. Finding his way rookie year. Can anyone imagine a better situation for a ~7’ rookie who can shoot to learn from the best ever at it?
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Dirk says what up. But your point is well taken.
 
As it relates to the KO comp I continue to think that Flip is much more physical the KO, but not nearly the level of a playmaker. I'm obviously comparing a 21 year old Flip to a 30 year old KO, so he has a chance to get there. If you could combine the playmaking of KO, but with a guy that is actually willing to bang down low for rebounds, that would be a great player to have.
 
Flip is a great example of how the eye test is still legit. Despite not the best shooting numbers in college or the summer league, it doesn’t take much of watching him to realize he can ball even if the results weren’t there. A guy that can process like that, be fluid like that, and have a shot that looks like that at that size? 9/10 times he’s gonna put it together.
 
NAOS_pt2 said:
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Did they really give him an assist on that play at about the 30 second mark? Let's see...pass down low, then dribble dribble dribble dribble pivot dribble dribble pivot twist pivot shoot. Sure, why not?
 
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